Off Topic Politics Thread

I think Trump is in serious cognitive decline. Seems really quick....if you compare his performances during the trials and election. Seems to have deteriorated in this last 6 months. I think there are some serious issues here.

 

Peter Kyle choosing to call anyone who is concerned about the Online Safety Act a nonce is certainly a choice.

Guy needs to be booted hard, there are a lot of Labour voters who are concerned about this and he has just gone full 2010 Call of Duty lobby on them.

Complete ****ing moron.

 

I am just using my VPN. No way am I letting lots of companies have my ID.

 

Farage is a friend of a suspected *****phile, so calling him out is a fair comment, imo.

 

Farage is a disease, but on this one Labour have given him the upper hand, Peter Kyle wasn't referring to that instance (if it is Trump we are talking about, Starmer is on his knees licking up the crumbs from Trump's table at the moment so Labour can't really attack him for it anyway) and instead trotting out deliberately charged bollocks when discussing a subject a lot of Labour voters are unhappy about. This is only the sort of tactic you should endorse if you want a Reform government, it is bad for Labour.

More importantly this isn't just about Farage, this is about Kyle attacking anyone who has concerns about the online safety act and suggesting you must be a nonce accomplice if you say anything against its implementation.

He needs to be sacked and made an example of, absolutely useless dregs and the exact kind of person who will hand this country to Farage on a plate. Complete incompetence.

 

Grim as **** this - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9y0lvpyqvo

Absurd that they're carrying out the investigation themselves.

 

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There's a reason Trump likes golf - private clubs, little holes, everyone has to stay silent, finishes at 18!

 

They are looking into outlawing VPNs as part of it btw.

 

I know it is taking the government at its word but Peter Kyle (who I think should be sacked for other reasons) was asked earlier today and said the government were not considering that.

 

Will need a VPN to get around the VPN law!

 

That's going to be tricky. Most large organisations depend on them, including the NHS.

The continuing problem is those driving these laws are idiots when it comes to how stuff works. They wouldn't know an I.P. from P.M.T.

Parents also seem to have bought in to the idea that rather than educate or converse with young people, we will block all nasties (impossible). An abdication of parental responsibility.

Restrict and if possible prosecute sites which have content which is unlawful but the big push needs to be on protecting the young through proper education. And maybe showing less mainstream shows such as Love Island which portray 'relationships' in such shallow ways.

 

Pretty impossible to do. How would i connect to my corporate VPN to work etc.

 

I don't think it would be that hard at all. There's a variety of chemicals and so on that can be used in certain industries but aren't for sale to the general public. I'm sure if the government really wanted to they could create some sort of licensing system that stopped the general public using VPNs but allowed businesses to. They could probably add a requirement that users would be prevented from accessing certain types of website, and I imagine most employers would be quite happy to do that anyway.

 

I sort of see it. But a VPN is a basic right. I have two set up to access my house for example. No way they could shut that down. My daughter in the US also uses it to access UK content in the US.

My VPN is self hosted wireguard and there would be uproar if ISPs tried to block it.

 

The government says lots of things but this whole online child safety act is a pointless exercise when anyone can VPN to access everything. Reality is that the only companies that are going to comply with the online safety act are the big beasts of social media and the big porn sites. All the other stuff is going to ignore it just as they always did with copyrights or rips etc.

So in effect the government knows that the selling point they are using is worthless and their real aim with the bill is to censor the big beasts. Nothing to do with child safety. All about censorship by the back door.

The demographic they are pretending to look after are the very demographic that are more clued up than most about VPNs.....and VPN downloads have surged the past few days!

 

A lot of the UK companies that are being run from China rely on VPNs as well! I work for one of them.

 

You think people in power actually realise how important these sort of things are to other areas away from people trying to access dodgy stuff? They see headlines and believe guff and make policy on their own misinformation and lack of knowledge.

 

One last thing on the VPN thing. It is technically hard to block them. Traditional VPNs maybe as you just block the ports, but SSL VPNs or networks like Tailscale are virtually impossible to detect and block.