I don't, I like you know **** all about what happened, apart from a statement put out by the airline. If we are finding them guilty on that statement then so they are, and so will every other passenger be in future. I'm still waiting to know how they tampered with face masks? I find two things strange about this incident, no camera footage from any one, whether a still picture or a mobile movie clip. Other than the teacher being manhandled to the floor. And no other passengers have come forward other than a fake clip that I saw.
If Vueling are lying, I'll gladly come back and call them out for being ****s. But put it this way, if you got on a plane and people started (as they are claiming) trying to remove oxygen canisters, and being aggressive and abusive to the Cabin crew. Were warned they'd be removed and then got all confrontational with the pilot. Would you be happy if they said, oh well we'll just leave them to it in case we get accused of being anti-semitic ?
Yeah fair point, we don't know anything about it. And yes it is odd that there's no phone footage. Am I more inclined to believe an Airline than the families of those kids, I will admit, yes I am. But that doesn't mean I have the facts. What I do know, is that when you board an aircraft, you are subject to the law around air passenger safety, and Cabin crews do not tend to **** about if they think people are being disruptive or present a risk. Personally I prefer it that way, because I don't want to be on a plane where it kicks off when it could have been dealt with on the ground.
I'm just imagining the reaction if a bunch of Muslims got on a plane, starting singing 'Allah Akbar', ****ing about with the aircraft and got abusive with the Cabin crew and Pilot and they didn't kick them off for fear of being called racist Where's sucky's everything is fine gif
I would like to assume that the airline does have mobile evidence of what happened and can't show it for legal reasons. Still bit baffled why other passengers haven't though, bit weird, normally you can't shut witnesses up.
Yeah I don't know. Do they have video evidence on aircraft ? I saw your post about body cams, and whilst I wouldn't really want to see Cabin crew like security guards, that is essentially their role on an aircraft. Whilst they might look like glamourised waitresses, it is explained to you when you board that the cabin crew are there for your safety and security. And yeah, I take the point about no phone footage, usually that **** is all over twitter within minutes.
There is footage of people chanting about Palestine on an aircraft, it's all over Twitter, no evidence that anyone was removed from the flight, despite cabin crew telling them to stop. But again I couldn't be asked, because people just constantly post bullshit, much like all the 9/11 stuff I saw yesterday on there....again I chose to ignore it and will wait for the truth to come out...the actual real truth that is, not bullshit stuff made up by twitter users.
I think that once you pass the point where you are disobeying the cabin crew, that's it, you're off. If Vueling are telling the truth and those kids were ****ing about with the aircraft, then they have no excuse whatsoever.
I would say as airplane disturbance is high risk, they should wear bodycams. If for no other reason than to protect the cabin crew from made up stories. It's the one place I would advocate surveillance equipment. Especially as pissheads rarely remember their actions.
Anyway, I've had a look on twatter to try and find out if there's anything that sheds any light on this and it is just the usual cesspit of slanging matches Some people calling Vueling Nazis and calling it Hamas Airlines etc. Others saying those kids should have been lobbed out mid flight. What a compassionate and caring place that site is
Remember back in my 20s - 5 of us in what might have been a Monarch flight from Birmingham to Greece - one of my mates played rugby for Coventry (bricklayer by trade) and was a 'bit of a scamp' - we'd just boarded and taken our seats and one of the stewardesses (a rather attractive lass) was doing the last minute checks - as she got to us my mate gave her a big grin and said "I wonder what would happen if I pressed this?" reaching up to the overhead panel where the aircon, lights and mask would drop from - there was some button- might have been 'emergency' ... she was obviously used to dealing with groups of knobheads like us and with a withering glance said.. "You'd be eating out in Birmingham tonight, not Greece... "
It does feel a tad unlikely from a load of French Jewish kids with an average age of about 12. We aren’t exactly talking Steve and Barry on the way back from Latvia away following Ingerland.
I can see how a group of 50 kids just back from camp could get boisterous and go over the top though. Anyway, as I've said, it shouldn't matter if they were Jewish or not. If they were ****ing about with the aircraft and then getting abusive to the crew, then they can't have any complaints about getting kicked off. If Vueling are lying about it all, then it's another matter altogether.
It shouldn’t matter but in a world where European Jews are being increasingly targeted for existing it feels very off. Some Spanish minister was first out the traps to attack the, in his words, Israelis which was a bit of a mask slip.
