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    I see the warmonger is at it again...

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    Today, the Israeli Air Force struck not just the Syrian Ministry of Defense in Damascus, but the Presidential Palace itself. A direct attempt on President Ahmad Al-Shar’a’s life. This isn’t posturing. This is war.

    And it’s madness. Total, reckless madness.

    Let me be absolutely clear: Syria had nothing to do with October 7. Not a single Israeli was killed by a Syrian bullet. There was no imminent threat. No Syrian attack. No Syrian provocation. And still, Israel bombed the seat of government in the capital of a sovereign state. Why? Because of some invented narrative of “Druze blood brothers”? A minority within a minority whose self-proclaimed leader is rejected by two other senior Druze leaders and widely known to be erratic, armed, and criminally involved in smuggling and gang violence?

    No one outside of Israel believes this. Not one serious government. Not one serious analyst. And certainly not the Arab world, where Israel is already skating on diplomatic thin ice after the carnage in Gaza. October 7 earned you some global sympathy. This just evaporated it. Entirely.

    You didn’t just strike a building. You undermined seven months of Arab-led progress to rehabilitate Syria, to de-radicalize it, to bring it back from 14 years of civil war and jihadism. And all this, for what?

    President Ahmad Al-Shar’a was the only Syrian leader who explicitly and repeatedly gave security guarantees to Israel. To President Trump. To President Aliyev. To President MBZ. In Baku. In Abu Dhabi. He made it clear: no war with Israel; restoration of order in Suwayda; integration of Syria into a post-conflict regional framework.

    Instead of supporting that path, you tried to assassinate him.

    You have now left him with no option but to declare general mobilization. You’ve turned a potential partner into a wartime president. And worse, you’ve opened the gates to what may become a transnational jihadist resurgence. You said you didn’t want a jihadi army on your border.

    You just created the perfect conditions for one. And this time, it won’t be the fractured, chaotic militias of 2013. It will be seasoned, enraged, and united by your own strategic illiteracy.

    Make no mistake:

    •This is an act of war, unprovoked.

    •This is a colossal strategic miscalculation.

    •And this is how regional wars begin.

    The presidential palace in a sovereign Arab capital has been bombed. And not by Iran. Not by Hezbollah. By you.

    Even your allies and potential allies - Abu Dhabi, Riyadh, Amman - are now shocked and outraged. And once again: There. Was. No. Syrian. October 7.

    Stop now. Cease fire. While there is still anything left to salvage. Though tragically, I fear it is already too late.


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    I believe it even if I’m apparently the only person outside of Israel who does. The Syrian government aren’t the good guys here no matter how much any headline involving Israel leads to bleating.
     
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    Have to agree that Jolani and his regime are all show and that he has very limited control of the country and its armed factions. Syria will fall into a civil war soon, the Shia Sunni Alawites Druze Orthodox and Christians all distrust each other and the country is awash with ex ISIS foreign fighters - mostly Chechan

    That of course doesn't give anyone the right to just steam in and bomb another sovereign nation but that's Netanyahu's MO and the whole region is on edge

    I work with many Druze and my wife's cousins husband is Druze and they are a small community being horrifically butchered in Suwayda, the Syrian army essentially massacred them. Jolani has no control and i am certain little compassion other than to keep the facade of peace in front of Trump.
     
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    Good thing someone bothered to intervene.

     
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    Netanyahu the peacemaker <laugh>
     
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    Looks that way. Good for them when they could have easily looked the other way. They’ll give you something else to whinge about soon I’m sure.
     
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    Looks that way to you, maybe. Takes attention away from the continuing genocide in Gaza, I suppose.

    But then you approve of that, don't you?
     
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    Yes there’s been no news about Gaza for days now.
     
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    Fake news

    Jolani doesn't give a **** about the Druze

    And nor does Netanyahu

    Both are exploiting the minorities for their own agendas

    Trust me no one gives a **** about the Druze

    Only a show in front of Trump
     
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    At home our wonderful 'resident doctors' begin a 5 day strike demanding a mere 29% pay rise on top of the 22% they were given last year by the 'Grown-Ups-In-Charge'. Claiming this is for parity with their wage in 2008 they seem to think they're a special case but I remember years of zero or 1% increases for public sector workers in the 'austerity' years and rarely more than 2% in recent years. None of those workers have received such massive increases or are likely to. The ridiculous settlements in the first month of Starmer's government are, as predicted, fuelling even more ridiculous demands. Meanwhile the chaos of the Tory years is being more than matched by this incompetent government who seem to get so many decisions they make wrong before backtracking....
     
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    How much do resident doctors earn
     
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    So, Macron has stated that France will officially recognise a Palestinian state in September at the G7

    Now the pressure is on Starmer from his own party to follow suit, which of course will upset Trump
     
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