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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Bozz, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    Andy Carroll has joined non league club Dagenham and Redbridge.
     
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  2. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Arsenal finally make a decision on a striker. Gyokeres deal looks imminent £60m + add-ons.

    That leaves Sesko at RBL, think he'd be a better option than Ektike
     
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  3. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    it also sets the valuation for an in form young striker - the other two mentioned shouldn’t cost more in theory
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    How does that work?

    Gyokeres has a specific deal with his club to let him go at a price.
     
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  5. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    same as any other market price in any industry mate
     
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  6. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Not really how it works though is it.

    Madueke just got signed by Arsenal for 52m. That doesn’t mean any average winger that can’t score or assist is now suddenly valued at 52m otherwise if you use madueke value then Gyokeres is worth 100m.
     
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  7. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    The way it works is you pay what you think a player is worth to your team and no more.

    Everyone can laugh at what you paid for Nunez and we paid for Antony but the managers at the time must have thaought they seen something in them to pay that price.

    Somtimes a player can look unbelievably good in one league/team and be a disaster in another as we both found out.
     
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  8. organic red

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    <laugh>....A desperate attempt to compare Nunez to the shambolic Antony.......

    Nunez.....40 goals in 3 seasons including 25 league goals

    Antony....12 goals in 3 seasons including 5 league goals

    Sorry,no comparison.
     
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  9. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    How many games each?
     
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  10. organic red

    organic red Well-Known Member

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    Antony 1 goal in 8......Darwin 1 goal in 3.5......
     
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  11. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    So Nunez only played in 3.5 games all season?
     
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  12. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Diego was on a buzz last night.

    Don't feed the troll. You know what he gets like when he is on the jazz.

    Anthony not only was a massive flop he was a bad attitude.

    You should have focused on that
     
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  13. SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING

    SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING Well-Known Member

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    that’s exactly how it works. Of course there are one-offs and buy-out clauses but player valuations are based on what people are prepared to pay (e.g. the market price) - if you are selling or buying, you will look at similar types of players sold to determine what that price is….obviously the seller, to justify their price, the buyer, to justify their offer.
     
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  14. saintanton

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    I think most were just pointing and laughing.
    We have to feed him occasionally otherwise he'll just waste away and our late-night entertainment will be gone.
     
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  15. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    But it’s not. Antony cost 80m so does that mean any bang average winger is now worth 80m? No… because madueke went for 50m and cherki just went for 30m.

    Far more factors involved in what determines the fee than comparing against other players. Who the buying club is, who the selling club is, how long left on contract, if player is in form, if player has caused a fuss with current team, if they have any kind of gentlemen’s agreement to go.
     
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    I completely agree that there are a lot of variables, including a Utd tax <whistle>, but they will all work from a perceived market price and the basic principle of supply and demand. Antony’s form with Utd will definitely reflect on his current valuation but not on what Utd paid for him. It’s basic economics and whether we like it or not, players are simply assets. I am not saying it is a hard number, but the value range is set by sales values that have happened recently…..

    would you sell Diaz for £40m

    would you have paid £60m for Kerkez

    why not? Because they are not what those positions go for.
     
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  17. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    except Gvardiol went for 70m
    cancelo 60m
    walker 50m
    wan bisaka 50m

    and no I wouldn’t sell Diaz for 40m. To us in our current situation he’s worth about 80m as we’d have to pay a lot to replace and not much value out there. But I also wouldn’t buy Diaz for 80m if he was available and we were looking to buy. Hes worth more to us because of Nunez/Jota situation then he would be to others. And none of that is based on what madueke has just been sold for or what Gyokeres is being sold for.
     
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    organic red Well-Known Member

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    I just read that and thought Citeh paid more like £50m.....so I checked.............£77m <yikes>
     
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  19. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Mateta being linked. Would be a horrendous option. Proper number 9 that and been in brilliant form last 2 years but at his age and probably cost a fair whack seems a short term option.

    Proper handful though to play through the centre and offer real physical presence.
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Jota will be missed. We can't hold both a shirt number and a squad space forever.

    Nunez is a nice lad and did work hard but we have to get better and slot seems to have made his mind up. Maybe he will be given a second chance I don't know.

    We also have the diaz situation and this whole chiesa situation.

    The way the press are going they'd have everyone sold off bar salah if they could.

    It's should be all up in the air now. It's really up to slot isn't it? Or should be.
     
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