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WAR! What is it good for?

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  1. Solid Air 2

    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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    seen no evidence Social Media posts are monitored or else half of the peeps using this site would be banged up .
    Tbh your post reads like the Govt should allow asbestos to be used as a building material , have Arsenic in paint scrap H&S legislation etc

    and god forbid we do something to stop food producers from weaning our children onto sugar laden food .
     
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    thats why don't let all coppers have actual guns
     
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    So we didn't put someone inside for 3 years for what they wrote on Facebook. I'm happy for them to do whatever they want, but we need to stop the crying when people then can't protest. Everything is about control, one rule always leads to another.

    Asbetos is nothing to do with the publics general freedom to do what they chose, so to suggest asbestos means you are desperatly seeking reply or incredibly thick....see Arsenic for evidence of your dumbness. I agree on sugar, but it's still a government taxation on choice.

    Anyway I'm off to buy some arsenic paint now, anyone know a decent hardware store still open these days. :bandit:
     
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    Cops have already been done recently for pulling a taser on someone when there was absolutely no need for it.
     
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  6. Solid Air 2

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    the state isn't monitoring Social media someone reported her post to plod .
    quite often sugar isn't a choice as they whack it into loads of things you wouldn't naturally put it in .
    Nearly all the things you mentioned were "targeted" as they were considered public heal threats same as asbestos etc .
    PS vapes aren't banned just "single use" ones
     
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    The police who work on behalf of the state, do monitor social media posts, football would be a good example of that. The police even give advice via social media directly to certain groups of fans before away games, so you are wrong.

    Even if the Facebook woman was reported, it was still punishment for something written on social media, so hopefully the same will apply to people who trash military aircraft. I personally don't care about that woman or the people that stepped on to MOD land, you can bang them all up for as long as you like, people just need to stop crying about it, saying it's authoritarian, tough it's what everyone wanted....

    From google:

    AI Overview

    Yes, the police monitor social media. They use it for intelligence gathering, investigations, and community engagement. They can monitor publicly available content and may also access private data with legal warrants or by seizing devices.

    Here's a more detailed explanation:
    Monitoring Publicly Available Content:
    • Police can view anything that is posted publicly on social media.
    • This includes posts, comments, photos, videos, and other shared content.
    • They can also track trends and conversations related to specific topics or events.
    Monitoring Private Data:

    • Police can access private data with a warrant or court order.
    • They may also seize devices (like phones) and access social media accounts directly.
    • They can request data from social media companies, who are legally obligated to comply under certain circumstances.
    Reasons for Monitoring:
    • Intelligence Gathering:
      Social media provides insights into community sentiment, potential criminal activity, and emerging threats.
    • Investigations:
      Social media can be used as evidence in investigations, including tracking suspects, identifying witnesses, and gathering information.
    • Community Engagement:
      Police use social media to communicate with the public, share information, and build relationships.
    • Vetting Processes:
      Social media checks are part of the police vetting process to ensure officers uphold public trust.
    Important Considerations:

    • Police must adhere to legal and ethical guidelines when monitoring social media.
    • Balancing the need for surveillance with the protection of individual privacy and civil liberties is crucial.
    • Transparency about social media monitoring practices is important for maintaining public trust.
     
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  8. Solid Air 2

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    ah when you said "monitoring social media" i thought you meant ala China
     
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    Like I say, we already have laws to deal with these sorts of incidents. Hate crime covers people openly waving around Swaztikas and making Anti-Semitic chants or whatever the more extreme folk do at these protests.

    The bloke who was put in hospital is clearly assault or GBH
     
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    I agree with all of that, but what I'm saying is that it's a different thing to over surveil than it is to try and shut down protest by criminalising grannies under the prevention of Terrorism act.

    And nobody is say we should let people trash military aircraft, that's the point I'm making. We already have laws to cover all of these things.

    Terrorism and the laws that apply to it, should be reserved for the groups that actually want to inflict indiscriminate death on innocent people
     
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    Nowt wrong with China, my mate Xi often sends me a small monetary gift for data being so supportive of his country...

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    I don't think most those grannies could ride a scooter let alone scale a fence. <laugh>
     
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    Lol, yeah well that's what I mean. Clearly Marjorie, 68 from Sevenoaks with her 'End the Ethnic Cleansing' placard isn't even on the same level as somebody who could break into a RAF base and spray a can of paint on an aircraft. And she's a million ****in miles away from some radicalised nutter who would gladly blow themselves up along with a bus full of innocent people.

    Yet the law now puts them all in the same bracket.
     
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    reminds me of this lol

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    You know what the date is today right, so I'd argue she's probably only protesting a mile or two away from exactly where that happened. I doubt they even know the names of those that organised the group nor what funding they have given to radicalised groups. They support them because they got **** all else to do that day, they should just go back home and complain about it on Facebook.
     
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    This is my point, the people who carried out the 7/7 bombings and those that support, encourage them are the ones who need to be alerted to counter terrorism units, not Doris from Beckenham with her Free Palestine placard.
     
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    She pleaded guilty to a specific crime and was given the minimum sentence for that crime... and indeed 60% of it will also be 'under licence' - so she won't be in prison for that portion - could argue she was lucky - could have got much longer if the judge had really wanted to make an example of her ...
     
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    There were a couple of old hippies - man and woman - very white hair, I'd say 80s - outside our Sainsburys last week, collecting for Medical Aid for Palestine - had a little fold out table and chairs, leaflets and collection boxes - young copper came along and told them to pack up and leave - he was getting pelters from shoppers and the poor ****er just stood there shrugging his shoulders and giving 'what can I do - just following orders' open arms gestures ... felt sorry for the lad - only doing his job - but what have we come to?
     
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    Hopefully they'll make an example even more of people that damage military aircraft. A group that's got history of causing criminal damage. Minimum 14 years for damaging military equipment.

    AI Overview

    Damaging military vehicles with the intent to further terrorism could lead to a "serious terrorism sentence," which includes a minimum of 14 years in prison and up to 25 years on license, with stricter supervision. The Counter-Terrorism and Sentencing Act 2021 significantly impacts sentencing for terrorism-related offenses, including those involving damage to property like military vehicles.
     
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