Plently of Jews hate what the IDF is doing in Gaza (although I know you're not one of them). It's not anti-semitic to call them out as genocidal murderers. These two stories ran alongside each other on the BBC website at the weekend. Which of these is more worthy of outrage, would you say?........ please log in to view this image Here's the answer from our objective press..... please log in to view this image
Stuff that happened yesterday here is going to get more of the headlines than the same thing happening for the hundredth time somewhere else. Not everyone is desperate for more war porn with their cornflakes. But my point really was just that Rosen is a fruitcake.
Yeah, but Bob Vylan..... Senior Israeli official says all Palestinian adults in Gaza 'should be eliminated' | Middle East Eye
Map shows full list of countries that want Israel wiped off face of the Earth or refuse to acknowledge it exist. No wonder Israelis have a siege mentality: PETER VAN ONSELEN By PETER VAN ONSELEN, POLITICAL EDITOR FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA Published: 15:43 AEST, 22 June 2025 | Updated: 23:04 AEST, 22 June 2025 There are few nations on Earth whose very existence is up for debate. Fewer still where that debate is held not only in the United Nations General Assembly but on the streets of Sydney, London and New York. Yet that’s the uncomfortable reality Israel has lived with every day of its modern existence. A state carved born from the ashes of the Holocaust and immediately met with war. Now, nearly 80 years on, Israel is still surrounded: geographically, diplomatically and ideologically by forces that don’t just criticise its policies but question whether it should exist at all. And yet some people can’t even fathom why Israelis feel under siege. You can’t defend every Israeli decision. I don’t. The country's response to Hamas sometimes shocks and appalls, and its handling of relations with Iran and the Palestinians can at times be counterproductive. But for those with short memories or selective sympathies, Israel’s actions take place in a context that is unique in modern geopolitics: it’s a state surrounded by enemies, some of whom don’t just hate it but want it wiped off the map entirely. please log in to view this image +3 View gallery TRENDING The states that want Israel gone Let’s start with Iran given the current conflict. The Islamic Republic isn’t remotely shy about its intentions. For decades, Iranian leaders have referred to Israel as a ‘cancerous tumour’ and ‘the little Satan’. Iran has repeatedly pledged to wipe it from the face of the planet. Which is precisely why Israel is determined to prevent Iran developing nuclear weapons. It’s not just puffed up rhetoric either. Iran funds and arms proxies located right on Israel’s borders, including Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza. Iran’s nuclear ambitions, thinly disguised behind claims of civilian purposes, are rightly feared. Syria, despite the implosion of its own state, remains formally at war with Israel. It has offered safe passage and logistical support to anti-Israel groups. It has allowed Iranian military infrastructure to be set up on its territory. Every Israeli airstrike on Syrian soil counts as a pre-emptive act of self-preservation. While some Arab states have quietly stepped back from overt hostility thanks in part to the Abraham Accords, others remain diplomatically frozen. Saudi Arabia has toyed with recognition but still hasn’t made the leap. Algeria, Iraq and Yemen remain openly hostile - with the Houthis in Yemen regularly firing rockets. These are not minor players in the Middle East. They are regional powers with long-standing ideological or religious opposition to Israel’s existence. please log in to view this image +3 View gallery Donald Trump with the Saudi Prince Mohammed Bin Salman. Saudi Arabia has toyed with recognition but hasn't made the leap Terrorist groups committing genocide Right behind the hostile states are the armed terrorist groups that operate with their blessing. Groups whose founding charters demand the destruction of Israel. This isn’t speculative or exaggerated, it’s all there in black and white. Take Hezbollah for example, the Iranian-backed militia in Lebanon. Its 1985 open letter to the world doesn’t mince words and has never been retracted: ‘Our struggle will end only when this entity [Israel] is obliterated.’ It has thousands of rockets aimed at Israeli cities and has provoked multiple wars. And then there is Hamas, which has long governed Gaza and fired thousands of rockets into Israel during the past few years, including before the slaughter on October 7, 2023. Hamas’ charter literally calls for the destruction of Israel. It doesn’t talk about peace or a two-state solution. Rather, it calls for Islamic rule ‘from the river to the sea’ - a euphemism for the end of the Israel state. Then there’s Palestinian Islamic Jihad, smaller than Hamas but no less lethal or ideologically opposed to Israel’s very existence. PIJ is bankrolled by Iran, is responsible for suicide bombings and rocket attacks and is committed to armed resistance as the only pathway forward. Coexistence is not on its agenda, yet in some quarters of the Western world these groups are not even regarded as terrorist organisations. They are referred to as ‘freedom fighters’, a form of Orwellian rebranding that should concern us all. Countries that still say 'no' to Israel's right to exist As of today there are more than two dozen countries that still refuse to recognise Israel as a legitimate nation. Not rogue states or banana republics but members of the UN. They include Pakistan, Indonesia and Malaysia, as well as states already mentioned. They have no formal diplomatic relations with Israel: No embassies in Israel, no Israeli embassies in their home states, nor any acknowledgement of its existence. A significant portion of the Muslim world, with hundreds of millions of citizens, therefore regards the tiny Jewish state as illegitimate. Not just in policy terms but in principle, and that’s before you factor in the noisy rejections of Israel by the likes of North Korea and Venezuela. To be sure, the Abraham Accords - an agreement between Israel and Arab states struck under the first administration helped overcome some of the anti-Israeli sentiments around the world. The UAE, Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan all moved towards formal recognition. But the list of holdouts remains long and politically influential. It’s also worth noting that some of the so-called moderate states have no love for Israel either. They might shake hands in Washington, but their schoolbooks, media and official rhetoric still often demonises Israel and legitimises the actions of its enemies. The campaign to delegitimise Israel Perhaps the most galling players in attempts to delegitimise the state of Israel can be seen in some Western universities, NGOs and parliaments: Lopsided outrage that erupts whenever Israel defends itself, but not so much when rockets fall on Tel Aviv or families are slaughtered by jihadists. The nuance to understand Israeli reactions is lost in the very institutions that are supposed to use nuance as a cornerstone of their approaches and thinking. The Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement claims to target Israeli policies, but in reality it aims to isolate and weaken the state entirely. Some of its founders are open about their end goal: not a two-state solution, but no Jewish state at all. And yet BDS continues to be embraced in Western cultural and academic circles writ large, particularly among those for whom context and consistency are optional extras. Then there’s the protest movements. In the wake of Hamas’s barbaric October 7 attack, which saw over 1,200 Israelis killed and hundreds taken hostage, university students across the West held rallies against Israel. Think about that for a moment. Civilians were butchered, babies beheaded and women raped, yet the global response in some quarters was not horror at the atrocities but outrage that Israel dared to respond. No other nation on earth would tolerate that kind of hypocrisy and nor should Israel. please log in to view this image +3 View gallery Smoke rises from one off Israel's biggest hospitals - Soroka hospital in Beersheba - after being directly hit by one of Iran's ballistic missiles An understandable siege mentality So yes Israel has a siege mentality. But that’s not paranoia, it’s realism. Israel is a country surrounded by its enemies, some of them with large armies, others with well-funded terror networks, and still more with ideological purity that rejects Israel’s very right to exist. Some with nuclear weapons, others trying to develop them. How would you feel if you lived in Israel? It’s also a country that has each and every military response it makes dissected in the global media. Meanwhile its attackers are too often granted the soft bigotry of low expectations. When Israel makes a mistake, it’s a war crime. When Hamas targets a bus stop, it’s ‘resistance’. Criticising Israeli policy is fair game. After all, unlike almost every single one of its enemies, Israel is a democracy, where leaders face elections and journalists hold them to account. But questioning Israel’s right to exist, or pretending its strategic environment is anything other than hostile, is an abdication of intellectual honesty. And so is reflecting negatively on Israel’s responses without the context it exists within. Sympathy without context is misguided sentiment There’s no doubt the Israel Palestine conflict is messy, painful and very tragic. Innocents suffer, lives are lost and peace feels further away with every passing year. But if you claim to care about peace or justice you cannot ignore the basic fact that one side is trying to survive in a region where its very existence is considered provocative. Israel certainly isn’t perfect. No country is, including democracies. But it is a democracy surrounded by autocracies. It is a nation born out of trauma, rejected by many the moment it arrived. Ever since it has been forced to fight for the simple right to live. Those who rush to condemn Israel while ignoring the threats it faces every single day reveal more about their prejudices than their principles. Israel feels besieged because it is, and no amount of slogans or campus activism changes that.
So in the last few days the government has dropped half of its welfare reforms in chaotic fashion because its own MPs didn’t like it; and has quietly delayed introducing, and perhaps is planning to drop altogether, many of the additional employee rights Rayner has fronted up, because employers don’t like them. To be fair to Rayner she’s probably spending most of her time bricklaying and plastering to get the home building stuff on track. Incredibly sneakily, buried in a 183 page document, they have also ended the refugee scheme for those Afghans at risk from the Taliban because they helped the British during the war. No notice given, scheme simply ended. Meanwhile, in a huge vote of confidence for the British economy, the CEO of Astra Zeneca, the UKs biggest company by market capitalisation, wants to move its stock market listing and corporate domicile to the US. Yes, that’s Donald Trump’s US. Reeves wants to cut the amount we can invest in cash ISAs so we would invest in stocks ISAs instead because she thinks this will boost the British stock market. Only an idiot would pay into single market share trading investments. Perhaps she would though. Starmer isn’t going to last this term and I doubt Reeves will last the year.
Starmer is a classic middle management paper shuffler elevated beyond his abilities Elected solely because he wasn't a Tory This whole narrative that he was so busy with the geopolitical scene that he forgot what was going on at home beggars belief
Only just heard about that. Feel a bit sorry for her, out of her depth and a charisma free boss. Both of them bullied by Streeting.
A year of "The grown-ups are in charge" and Starmer's shortcomings have been brutally exposed. So many key decisions have proved to be disastrously lacking in judgement with yesterday's farcical climbdown a total humiliation. The 'rebels' now know they can force their agenda on him as and when, no doubt the two child benefit cap will be the next hurdle he'll face. It's only a matter of time before he's done for, seemingly unpopular both in the country and in his own party. There are many of his new MPs whom he has never spoken to after a year in office which shows the disconnect between he and his inner circle and those outside it. It took a working class old school MP, Ian Lavery, to succinctly sum yesterday's farce up stating what many in the chamber already knew, perhaps Starmer should get out of his bubble more often...
MP Zarah Sultana says she will ‘co-lead’ new party as she quits Labour for Corbyn group Coventry South MP, who lost whip last year, surprises some in Corbyn’s Independent Alliance with news of formal plans Aletha Adu Political correspondent Thu 3 Jul 2025 23.05 BST Share MP Zarah Sultana, suspended from Labour, has announced she is resigning from the party to join Jeremy Corbyn’s Independent Alliance. Sultana declared she will “co-lead the founding of a new party” – even though, while there was an agreement in principle to form one, the timing and leadership had not been settled, the Guardian understands. Sultana, 31, who represents Coventry South, posted a statement on Thursday evening describing Westminster as “broken” and claiming the two main parties offer “nothing but managed decline and broken promises”. She urged supporters to “join us” in creating what she presented as a new party. Her declaration took some in the alliance by surprise and has exposed divisions over strategy. While Corbyn has long hinted at plans to establish a more organised vehicle for leftwing and pro-Palestinian campaigning, he has so far avoided confirming any formal structure or leadership arrangements. Corbyn, 76, has not committed to the project becoming a party, or endorsed any specific leadership roles. The Guardian understands he was frustrated by Sultana’s unilateral announcement, which some regard as premature and potentially counterproductive. So far, he has confined his public comments to cautious remarks about the group “coming together” and “offering an alternative”, without outlining further details. Speaking on ITV’s Peston programme this week, he confirmed talks were under way but did not rule out other possibilities. “That grouping [of independents] will come together, there will be an alternative,” he said. Corbyn, the MP for Islington North, is reluctant to take on the title of leader – as consistent with his preference for collective decision-making – and is believed to think that imposing a hierarchy too soon would risk fragmenting the already fragile coalition he spent months encouraging to work together. Sultana was first elected in December 2019 and has sat in the Commons as an independent MP since September last year, having had the Labour whip removed after voting to abolish the two-child benefit cap. In a statement at the time, she said she would “do it again” and accused the government of seeking to make disabled people suffer. Corbyn led Labour from 2015 to 2020 before he was suspended over his response to the party’s antisemitism report. He retained his Islington North seat last year as an independent candidate. The Independent Alliance includes four other independent MPs who all beat Labour candidates and MPs over the party’s position on Gaza. The group has the same number of MPs – five – as Reform UK and the Democratic Unionist party, and more than the Green party and Plaid Cymru (four each). In her full statement, Sultana added: “A year ago I was suspended by the Labour party for voting to abolish the two-child benefit cap and lift 400,000 children out of poverty. I’d do it again. “I voted against scrapping winter fuel payments for pensioners. I’d do it again. Now, the government wants to make disabled people suffer; they just can’t decide how much.” After a year studying Starmer, I can tell you that he is at once a very kind man and a ruthless one Anushka Asthana Read more The move could dismantle the left-of-centre vote and present a headache for Starmer, who has repositioned Labour in the political centre. Corbyn’s group includes Shockat Adam, the MP for Leicester South; Ayoub Khan, the MP for Birmingham Perry Barr; Adnan Hussain, the MP for Blackburn; and Iqbal Mohamed, the MP for Dewsbury and Batley. Before Sultana’s statement, Corbyn had said any new party would focus on poverty, inequality and a foreign policy “based on peace rather than war”. Asked if he would lead the party, he said: “I’m here to work – I’m here to serve the people in the way I’ve always tried to do. “The Alliance group of MPs has worked very hard and very well together over the past year in parliament, and we’re coming up to our first anniversary.” Last September, Corbyn addressed a meeting to prepare for a leftwing political party named Collective which was also attended by the former Unite general secretary Len McCluskey and a number of former independent candidates. Key figures in the group said they hoped the party would act as an incubator for future leaders who could replace Corbyn as a figurehead of the left, and aim to contest seats at the next general election. At the private meeting, founders said they would begin drawing up democratic structures for a new party to launch. A source close to Corbyn said his attendance was not an official endorsement and that he had attended the meeting to “listen to and share a variety of views about the way forward for the left”.
so now the isrealis are arming some palestinians Hamas security officer says group has lost control over most of Gaza 3 hours ago Share Save Rushdi Abualouf Gaza correspondent Reporting fromCairo please log in to view this image NurPhoto via Getty Images A displaced child plays inside a destroyed vehicle at the Arafat Police Academy in Gaza City A senior officer in Hamas's security forces has told the BBC the Palestinian armed group has lost about 80% of its control over the Gaza Strip and that armed clans are filling the void. The lieutenant colonel said Hamas's command and control system had collapsed due to months of Israeli strikes that have devastated the group's political, military and security leadership. The officer was wounded in the first week of the war, which began after the Hamas-led attack on Israel on 7 October 2023, and has since stepped away from his duties for health reasons. He shared several voice messages with the BBC on condition of anonymity. Israeli strike at Gaza market kills 18 Palestinians, doctor and witnesses say Netanyahu confirms Israel arming clans opposed to Hamas in Gaza In the messages, the officer painted a picture of Hamas's internal disintegration and the near-total collapse of security across Gaza, which the group governed before the conflict. "Let's be realistic here - there's barely anything left of the security structure. Most of the leadership, about 95%, are now dead... The active figures have all been killed," he said. "So really, what's stopping Israel from continuing this war?" "Logically, it has to continue until the end. All the conditions are aligned: Israel has the upper hand, the world is silent, the Arab regimes are silent, criminal gangs are everywhere, society is collapsing." Last September, Israel's then-defence minister declared that "Hamas as a military formation no longer exists" and that it was engaged in guerrilla warfare. According to the officer, Hamas attempted to regroup during the 57-day ceasefire with Israel earlier this year, reorganizing its political, military, and security councils. But since Israel ended the truce in March, it has targeted Hamas's remaining command structures, leaving the group in disarray. "About the security situation, let me be clear: it has completely collapsed. Totally gone. There's no control anywhere," he said. "People looted the most powerful Hamas security apparatus (Ansar), the complex which Hamas used to rule Gaza. "They looted everything, the offices - mattresses, even zinc panels - and no-one intervened. No police, no security." please log in to view this image Anadolu via Getty Images Hamas-run security forces went out in uniform during a ceasefire with Israel in January The officer said a consequence of the security vacuum was gangs or armed clans were "everywhere". "They could stop you, kill you. No one would intervene. Anyone who tried to act on their own, like organising resistance against thieves, was bombed by Israel within half an hour. "So, the security situation is zero. Hamas's control is zero. There's no leadership, no command, no communication. Salaries are delayed, and when they do arrive, they're barely usable. Some die just trying to collect them. It's total collapse." On 26 June, at least 18 people were killed when an Israeli drone strike targeted a plainclothes Hamas police unit attempting to assert control over a market in Deir al-Balah, accusing vendors of price gouging and selling looted aid, witnesses and medics said. The Israeli military said it struck "several armed terrorists" belonging to Hamas's Internal Security Forces. please log in to view this image Reuters At least 18 Palestinians were reportedly killed in an Israeli strike that targeted a Hamas-run police unit in Deir al-Balah on 26 June In this vacuum, six armed groups affiliated with powerful local clans have emerged as serious contenders to fill the void, according to the officer. These groups have access to money, weapons and men, and are active across all of Gaza, but mostly in the south. One of them is led by Yasser Abu Shabab, a figure who has attracted attention from the Palestinian Authority, which is based in the occupied West Bank and is a rival to Hamas, as well as regional players - particularly after Israel confirmed last month that it was supplying him with weapons. The officer confirmed that Hamas had placed a large bounty on Abu Shabab's head, fearing he could become a unifying figure for its many enemies. "Hamas would ignore ordinary thieves. People are hungry and [the fighters] don't want to provoke more chaos. But this guy? If the Hamas fighters find him, they might go after him instead of Israeli tanks." Sources in Gaza told the BBC that Abu Shabab was working to co-ordinate with other armed groups to form a joint council aimed at toppling Hamas. please log in to view this image Reuters Armed members of a local clan said they accompanied a convoy of UN aid lorries in northern Gaza to protect it from looting last month A retired Palestinian security official, who was part of the force that cracked down on Hamas's military wing in 1996 following a wave of bombings in Israel, said Abu Shabab's network was gaining traction. "Abu Shabab's group is like an orphaned child who everyone will want to adopt if he succeeds in undermining Hamas rule," said the official, who now lives in Cairo. "Publicly, all sides deny links to the armed groups in Gaza. But Abu Shabab has met a senior Palestinian intelligence officer three times and sent messages of assurance to the Egyptians through relatives in Sinai," he claimed. He also said Abu Shabab "maintains good ties with Mohammad Dahlan's camp". Dahlan is a former Gaza security chief who has lived in exile since he fell out with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas 15 years ago. The Hamas security officer warned the group was "willing to do anything" to eliminate Abu Shabab not because of his current military strength, but out of fear he could become a symbol around which all of Hamas's adversaries rally. "For 17 years, Hamas made enemies everywhere. If someone like Abu Shabab can rally those forces, that could be the beginning of the end for us." As Gaza is plunged further into lawlessness, with entire neighbourhoods descending into gang rule, Hamas finds itself not just under Israeli fire but increasingly surrounded by rivals from within.
