Do catch up its the 21st century. Now it's I want everything and I want it now. Saving up until you can afford it is so last century. Houses, cars, holidays, furniture it all goes on the credit bill which is doable if your income is more than the monthly payments. When a change in circumstances reduces the income you're in the ****. Similarly if you're running at max credit and then you get an unexpected expense.
Exactly this. It used to be that when a young player wasn't good enough to get into the squad at a team, he would be loaned out to a weaker team with the hope that the experience of first team football makes him a better player. The PL club gain experience for their player, and the lower club get access to a player who is potentially better than their average. Now it seems the norm that lower clubs have to pay a fee to borrow, and we're getting ****ed over by Villa for a million quid for a player that played 165 minutes for us. Last season we were rumoured to be in for Rak-Sakyi from Palace, but they wanted a 1.5m loan fee. I dunno if we paid to loan Carvalho, but according to Transfermarkt, his value more than doubled between Liverpool buying him in 22/23 and them selling him to Brentford in Summer 2024. THAT should be the benefit in loaning players.
The one I don't get is TSF. Couldn't get off the bench at Gateshead and 1 goal. Hopefully, he kicks on and we see improvement.
Just seen they're an M&S product,£2.80 apparently!!! Another 70p and you're getting 20 Lambert&Butler in most hull shops
If multiple clubs want the player, then you take on board how closely the playstyle of the team aligns to your own, whether the club have a good history of playing and bringing on loan players, and also the wishes of the player himself. Villa have had our pants down for a player who cost us 6k per minute played, PLUS his wages.
It's not that cheeky, we got no value from the first loan and we're allegedly offering a massive sell-on percentage on the permanent, I'd certainly have posed the question.
I’m going to operate under the assumption it’s all going to be fine because I can’t ****ing fathom why you’d go in for all these players and start dealings, then back it up with a Q and A just for this to happen. Hoping it’s naivety and mismanagement that can be avoided in the future, nothing more sinister… (hoping but probably deluded)
Think sky and the greed of the big clubs have caused all of this, we can’t always blame the owners who want to get into the prem for the rewards it’s an opportunity, although they hold some of the blame.
-> As far as Villa goes, maybe Acun was trying to include the loan fee as part of the deal to buy Barry. Arguing that the player was injured for most of the loan period, so Villa should be at least flexible. In addition using money due for Philogene as part of the Barry deal. Villa have their own issues with FFP, so maybe they just got pissed off with Acun trying to do the deals as above, so pulled the deal. I guess we will just have to wait and see what transpires. -> This sounds very viable to me !!! Except that allegedly Villa didn't blow the whistle on us. Maybe when Villa were being looked at for their own FFP issues, it was spotted that we hadn't made the overdue payment, maybe Villa (and us) were perfectly happy with that situation as we were in the middle of ongoing negotiations (nobody seems to doubt that being true - not least the Athletic who actually reported the deal was done didn't they?), but those looking at Villa were obliged to report the overdue payment and the EFL were obliged to act. That's the only reasoning that makes any sense to me atm. (and might be totally wrong of course). However, it doesn't explain about local businesses allegedly not being paid on time ... if that is true and something that warrants concern (meaning beyond oversight or just pushing terms too far .. which isn't good practice granted). That's why I'd like to hear HT (and MKO, M8) expand on what they have said they know. Surely the time now to spill their beans, not just keep saying "it's bad", "told you so", etc?
why we paying 1 million to loan a player anyway, is that a standard amount? seems a lot to me for a short loan surely we should be investing money like that into purchasing young players of our own, i know are trying to buy him now but wasnt at the time of the loan. how much have we spent on loan fees last few years?
