Churchill? Odd choice for an example, given his own history with Israel/Palestine and immense racism. I don't really understand where you're coming from with your posts today, to be honest, Spurf. There's been virtually no defence of Israel on here and tons of criticism. I'd suggest that Starmer's been put in a very awkward position and is struggling to play it. Corbyn's issues with anti-semitism, both real and created, haven't helped him. He also cannot afford to make too many waves while Ukraine's in the balance.
Trump was rage tweeting at 3am because somebody pointed out to him his deal with Iran is identical to the one he tore up in 2018 that had been negotiated by Obama Come on, cholesterol, do your thing...
That's why I chose Churchill because despite his views he is viewed as a hero by history because he fought fascism. Where am I coming from? I haven't minced my words but the fact that you are not clear shows the gulf there is between England and the rest of these islands. Westminster is not a democratic institution only 34% of the voters voted for Labour. The electorate as registered was 48.2 million. 9.7million voted Labour. Corbyn's Labour party won 12.9 million votes and of course lost. It's plain isn't it. Corbyn won more votes then Starmer by a considerable margin DESPITE the campaign by Israel to blacken his name because he has always supported Palestine. Israel has completely infiltrated US and British politics and there is no clearer example than the 2019 election in the UK. The issue is not so much Israel, all countries promote their own case, the issue for me is the British governments support for that case. Both Tories and Labour are in hoc to Israel by virtue of their leadership. The MSM support this position. The British people find themselves governed by people with an allegiance to a foreign country and in the case of Scotland, Wales and Ireland governed by England, with all that baggage, acting as a colonial power. Voters in England are ill-informed by design but are still looking for an alternative, hence the rise of Reform. On top of all of this, our establishment is keen to hang on to its self perceived status as a world power and therefore hangs on to the coat tails of the USA who in effect call the shots over Britain. We are a US military base. So yes Starmer like all our post-war PMs is in an awkward position. There is a solution. The breakup of the UK into its four separate parts, all of whom can become prosperous European states and finally face up to a post empire reality. That is my position.
The 2019 election was the same as all other elections fought by a left wing Labour leader. The right made sure there were no splits so won most seats under the undemocratic electoral system we have. The media supported the right as it has always done. The more recent election had a weird result because Farage decided the Tories had lost the plot so didn't care about splitting the right wing vote. Hence the Labour 'landslide' which is again entirely due to the electoral system. Israel had no influence on anything really. And everyone knows the MSM are controlled by the right and are not to be trusted. If you didn't learn that while at school then you are not in a position to lecture others. I entirely agree on the UK breakup except that one of its parts was stolen from another country and should be returned.
I'm sure that, at some point, we might actually see one of Bob Vylan interviewed about Glastonbury...
