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Off Topic WW3 How Close?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Nozs’ Hat, Jan 20, 2022.

  1. Oliver's Army

    Oliver's Army Well-Known Member

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    Because he is a bit if a bully and will want to be seen to put them in their place. Same as all the tariff stuff
     
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  2. smithy in nl

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    I'm not so sure on the bullying thing tbh.
     
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  3. Row 3

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    The whole TACO ****e will be damaging his ego.
     
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  4. SAFCDRUM

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    Bear in mind he reckons he got India and Pakistan to stop firing at each other. Iran have done their retaliation, no damage. Everyone move on. If only.
     
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  5. Row 3

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    Stage managed response to save face. US and Qatar informed in advance it seems.
     
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  6. Gordon Armstrong

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  7. Daz

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    Not sure I agree with all the praise Trump is getting for arranging a ceasefire so quickly between Israel and Iran.

    No evidence to suggest Iran were close to making a nuclear weapon, Israel destroyed about 80% of Iran's missile facilities and bombed the nuclear facilities. Trump comes in and drops a bigger bomb on the same facilities and is now going to claim it was all his doing.

    Iran don't have any option other than a ceasefire and that would have likely happened without Trump's involvement. They announced they would attack a US based as a face saving exercise. He's seen an opportunity and grabbed it with both hands.

    An absolute grifter.
     
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  8. DTS

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    If he wants praise he can get a ceasefire deal that suits the Ukrainians.
     
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  9. Confucius

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    In typical American fashion he also made sure someone else had already done the hard work and destroyed air defence systems
     
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  10. flandersmackem

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    We live in some kind of weird f ucked up world in which a narcissist can oversee a short war between Israel and Iran, drops bombs on Iran...at the same time completely ignores what Russia are doing to a sovereign state.... indeed he sides with the likes of Iran, North Korea and China at the UN in a resolution against a ceasefire in Ukraine and claims he should win the Nobel peace prize.... I'm assuming no-one would be surprised if this orange moron actually did win it, such is his hold on world leaders.
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

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    There's a thin line between believing Trump knows what he's doing or not ...

    ... other world leaders have little choice but to pretend they believe.

    They know if they call out Trump it would just embolden the likes of Putin and give Trump a reason to smash them with tariffs etc.

    Israel are making the most of all this, sickening to watch in my opinion.
     
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  12. Frazier the Lion

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    The interesting thing here for me is the potential for miscalculation from Israel (and in the other theatre, Russia). Trump is such a venal idiot while being able to be led by the nose. With the arrogance of both Netenyahu and Putin we've already seen potential points where Trump has reacted very negatively to potential deviations from the US lead (and a lack of what he sees as proper deference).

    It's why the whole fluster in the UK press about Labour's inability to state that the Iran attacks were against international law was so frustrating for me. Sure it probably was, but what is gained by stating that? Is that 24 hour news cycle on the Today programme and on the left-leaning internet worth the cost? We've got an unstable, unpredictable USA to deal with. Is the need for a journalistic gotcha more important than our ability to effectively direct a lit firework on a generally beneficial heading?
     
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    Imagine a quiz show in 2035 asking this question
    “Which US president lost is mind on live TV and swore”

    this isn’t the action of a serious person
     
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    Sounds angry at Israel, which can only be a good thing imo.
     
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    I know this has undoubtedly been asked by billions of people around the globe, but how stupid does a country have to be to elect someone like Trump.
     
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  17. Smug in Boots

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    He has charisma, people like charisma <doh>
     
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    And more importantly, having witnessed his first spell, proceed to elect him again. Blows my mind tbh.
     
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  19. rooch 3

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    Really, really.
     
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  20. DTS

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    Not once but twice.

    Fool me once shame on you….
     
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