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WAR! What is it good for?

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Treble, Feb 11, 2022.

  1. Citizen Kane.

    Citizen Kane. Well-Known Member

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    Fair point. You've been slightly less forthcoming with 'context' on behalf of Iran than Pinkie. My apologies.

    I am still waiting for your view on some pretty simple questions:

    Why did Iran build four secret nuclear facilities alongside its open programme?

    Why is it involved in the civil war in Sudan?

    Why is it involved in the civil war in Yemen?

    Why did it enable Assad to murder half a million Syrians?

    Why did all of the above happen around or during the time it had signed the supposedly wonderful JCPOA?
     
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  2. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    We’re all biased in one way or another.

    Stop trying to pretend you’re objective and fair and the person you’re arguing with isn’t. Leave that to the politicians
     
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  3. Citizen Kane.

    Citizen Kane. Well-Known Member

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    You're new here KH.

    This isn't the same beast as the pathetic echo chamber that is the Politics Thread on the spurs board.

    We go at each other hammer and tongs on here and it is largely wonderful. I revel in the freedom of speech my western government gives me.

    Sometimes things get a bit out of hand, mind, but that's why we have the most level headed and reasonable mod here to sort things out...

    @Spurlock <laugh>
     
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  4. duggie2000

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    This has aged well

     
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  5. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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  6. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Where have I ever voiced support and joy for the Oct 7th attacks ?

    Show me one post

    This is just you windmilling now and hanging on the coat tails of CK because you can’t string an argument together yourself.
     
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  7. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Okay give me the context for Israel slaughtering Nearly 60k civilians in Gaza. Deliberately targeting hospitals, schools, refugee camps, flattening whole neighbourhoods and now deliberately targeting people queuing for food aid.

    what context makes it okay for Israel to build settlements in the West Bank ? What context makes it okay for Israel to continually persecute an entire ethnic population for and make open their claims to want to displace another 2.2 million’s people presumably again with no right of return to their own land ?

    I’ve said that Israel had the right to defend themselves after the Oct 7th attacks and I said they had a right to go after Hamas, what YOU have failed to do on every occasion is condemn very clear war crimes, instead choosing to dismiss the organisations who were bringing it to the worlds attention.

    I’m clear that the Iranian regime is another brutal dictatorship, they persecute their own people as well as enabling it happen in other countries, and they have blood on their hands for sure. I hope they can be overturned, but not by foreign invasion and bombing which will simply destabilise the county and the region even more ‘doing the worlds dirty work’ as you put it.

    Let’s see you start condemning some Israel’s actions instead of trying to sweep it all under the rug, and rubbishing the organisations that highlight it

    Maybe people are so critical of Israel precisely because people like you aren’t.
     
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  8. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Religion has been twisted by humans to justify the slaughter and persecution and excuse abhorrent behaviour

    Is that the fault of religion ? No it’s the fault of corrupt humans. At its core, religion gives people a moral code to live alongside people in peace, become the best version of yourself that you can as well as find your own spiritual connection to something bigger than yourself

    The problem is that people cherry pick certain parts of certain texts to try and justify their anger and rage and then religion as a whole gets blamed for the problem.

    The football analogy you used is a good one. Trouble happens at football matches, so football is the problem…

    As for atheism, my personal view is that people can develop the same moral code, compassion and understanding for others and live in peace whether they believe in a God or not, but again it’s about human corruption and the lust for power and control that makes people commit heinous acts.
     
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  9. Archers Road

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    Hopefully both countries’ leaders are on borrowed time. The best hope for the world is that change in both Iran and Israel comes from within, but in the meantime let’s not pretend either has the moral high ground at this point. Meanwhile Trump maybe even more of a threat, but hopefully a few dozen cheeseburgers will finish him off sooner rather than later. **** the lot of them, and let’s not pretend there’s an bounce of human decency among them.
     
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  10. Archers Road

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    Hitler wasn’t a Christian ffs.

    Stalin was when he was young though; he studied to be a priest for ten years.
     
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  11. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    Athiest?
     
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  12. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    Monday morning

    CK needs to display updated table
     
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  13. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Yes he was lol

    His regime promoted "positive Christianity" and his self penned autobiography spoke of his own Christianity
     
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  14. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    I think the issue, and this goes for every religious person and atheists is when they start to obsess over religion.

    I find some people cannot exist without an obsession, it's like a drug, be it football, conspiracy theories, religion, music whatever. These people always take it too far.

    A casual atheist/religious person is never the issue, ever, they're always the chilliest in the room. It's the person that can't stfu about it.

    Suckys an obsessive and so is Munson when it comes to football.
     
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  15. Star of David Bardsley

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    Not that relevant but think Genghis Khan pips Hitler to #3
     
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    Finally some considered analysis
     
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  17. PINKIE

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    Would have sounded better if they’d said

    ‘Stick it up your deep dark hole’

    but i appreciate there’s probably not enough room on the front page for that
     
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  18. PINKIE

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    Needs to start handing out some ****ing trophies.

    This league has been going on with no defined end of the season celebrations
     
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  19. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Three men. Netanyahu, Trump and Khamenei Responsible for the suffering of countless innocent people.

    As always it’s a handful of power hungry psychopaths who create the suffering for people who otherwise would gladly live alongside each other in peace.

    Khamenei is 86 and hopefully he’ll be dead soon. Trump will either kark it from a coronary or he’ll be out of office soon enough. As for Netanyahu, that bloke is like ****ing Nosferatu, always coming back from the dead. Somebody needs to drive a wooden stake into his heart to finish him off
     
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  20. brb

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    I don't need to windmill, you are too easy for that, but it's good you didn't deny what I said about SWP.

    And btw CK menshy me, so I would do exactly what I did. He's a shrewd operator.

    As for the 7th Oct, there's a whole thread on what you thought about the Israeli's.

    Oh btw I didn't lie the other day either - I just wasn't go to be goaded and baited by you.

    If I didn't have a message from hiag as you claim, how would I have known to delete his account?

    So you can stamp your feet as much as you want, you still will not bait me.

    For the simple reason I'm not your replacement toy, regardless of how many insults you throw at me.

    So if there's any windmilling to be done, I'm looking right at it and you will comeback everytime as easy as that lol.
     
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