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  1. Frazier the Lion

    Frazier the Lion Well-Known Member

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    Yeah we do. Every choice we make is a choice not to do something else. We neither have nor are allowed to spend infinite money. So while it may be a minor effect, it’s still essential that the money we spend gets onto the pitch.
     
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  2. Nads

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    I actually really wanted Racing to get up, similarly demoted due to financials absolutely cracking fans and a historic La Liga club.

    Also was a big Racing fan one of the staff while I was away and he was so passionate and excited about them was infectious.

    Sadly they got absolutely battered second leg.
     
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  3. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    That is absolute speculation at best and more likely absolute horse ****.

    No way on gods earth does us signing one player eliminate us signing for a different position.

    Correct, we won’t burn money for sake of it. We will absolutely be looking to build the whole squad.

    Why folk are thinking we are going to try and penny pinch this opportunity is beyond me. There is nothing to support this theory at all.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Can't Moore do that?
     
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  5. Frazier the Lion

    Frazier the Lion Well-Known Member

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    It’s not speculation, man. It’s basic logic. If we spend in one place we have less to spend elsewhere.
     
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  6. Southern A

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    That assumes we have a fixed budget and intend on spending 100% of it.

    Signing a back up keeper for £3m isn’t going to mean we have to sign a worse right back. The club will have identified the positions they want to improve and will work on getting the right players at the right price. The budget will flex to fit
     
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  7. steesafc

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    Aye if it wasn't Oviedo I was happy for it to be Racing. Another La Liga mainstay from when I was a kid!

    Almeria yo-yoing is boring, Mirandes would be different from a minnows POV.
     
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  8. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    It makes no sense.

    There’s literally no point spending at all if we are leaving holes in the squad.

    Not having a keeper deputy would be an absolutely insane gamble. Moore is great off the park and has been fine, but he is woefully short of PL standard.

    If we can’t drop a couple of million to cover a vital position we may as well forfeit the season.

    We aren’t spending on a reserve keeper an amount that would seriously impact what we can spend elsewhere.
     
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  9. alcoauth

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    This player is actually quite well known, Bologna paid a decent fee for him last summer when some premiership clubs were taking a look at him.
     
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  10. Nads

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    Aye Mirandés be a great story and they’ve been threatening it for a couple years, I kinda want Oviedo to do it for Cazorla as well.
     
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    3 goals and 3 assists in 11 starts.
     
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  12. Frazier the Lion

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    It means we’ve got £3m less with which to sign other players while keeping within our overall budget and PSR. It’s not really arguable. Now I recognise that my view is a bit niche, but it’s self evident that the whole thing is a balance. And if Patto gets injured on september 2nd then it’ll be a very good balance. However if the £3m we spend on a keeper sees the pitch as much as Nathan Bishop then it’d be fair to argue that we could have used that money better.
     
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    it is arguable. Because again that logic assumes we are intending to spend all of the money to get right on the wire of PSR. If we go in with a budget that leaves us £8m below PSR so we have wriggle room, which any sensible club would, then there is room to flex on players.

    anyway I’m going to back out of this argument now because it’s genuinely utterly obscene that a club would go into a premier league season with a backup who isn’t ready to start 10 games. Genuinely mindnumbingly foolish, sorry mate. Luckily the club aren’t.

    I’d genuinely put signing a backup keeper as a priority ahead of a third striker myself. It’s that important. The argument of “but we might not need them” is so so so foolish.
     
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  14. JimHeron92

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    He's awful, good character though and good for training.
     
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  15. Frazier the Lion

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    You’re tying yourself in knots over budget there mind. Lots of words to try to say ‘we don’t have one’ or at least to ignore that even in your example that still constitutes a budget - and a choice to spend on one thing and not another:emoticon-0102-bigsm:emoticon-0105-wink:

    fair enough though. Going round in circles as you say. There’s no way that you’re more likely to need a sub keeper than a third striker though. We’ll have used three strikers by mid august!

    (I just need to hope we haven’t used a second keeper by then:emoticon-0102-bigsm)
     
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  16. JimHeron92

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    Sure he can, but he can't do the other part which is playing in the premier league.
     
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  17. SourPatch2

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    If we were to bring in a 'keeper (I think we should), it should be on a free if possible.

    What about Yvon Mvogo? Out of contract and played under RLB at Lorient.
     
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    Were Sunderland and Burnley in for him aswell?
     
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  19. Southern A

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    great shout. Didn’t know he was OOC
     
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  20. CR17

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    I mean either way we need to sign players for depth in other positions. Would you class the at as a waste? Or just have subpar depth?
     
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