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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Yes. Slot was quite harsh with that team

    Tsimikas was not given time like he had been before. He really looked a reserve to Robertson until the league was won.

    Chiesa was just dropped, thst was it.

    Diaz played and Jota played.

    Endo was not given any more or less 5 to 20minite close out opportunities.

    Elliott at least got on v psg and made a difference.

    McConnell was stuck rb and thst was it for him after a lot of praise for cl cameos.

    I do think training has more to do with theses calls as well but slot did seem to feel let down
     
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    I think this is spot on. Elliott was on the way to being a good player with a good understanding between him and Salah when he was injured. Since then he's definitely running scared. Gets in good positions to take the odd shot and will score a few but just won't commit to a tackle or a challenge anymore. He's only going to be a squad player if he stays so, at this point, it's up to him how willing he is to be a bit part player until his contract situation decides for him.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    It's sad for him.

    I'm both disappointed for him and in him. I shouldn't be but he's a kid who could do more. He passes well but most of the time is passively just linking passes side and back rather than grabbing the game.
     
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    I'd like him to stay, he's Liverpool through and through. If he uses the summer well, he could come back a different player. I don't think he needs motivational help like, say, Nunez does. He needs maybe a sports psychologist reminding him of his capabilities and skills. He hasn't got pace ans we don't need a team of speed merchants but he has lots to offer.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    He's a nice lad. Silly hair but not a bad bone in his body.

    It does seem to be psychological and he needs to talk through stuff with the guys we have in the staff on it.
     
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    Beg's the question: Who is the highest player? TAA had obviously been smoking something, but he's gone.
     
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    Liverpool will have their spend limit and potentially Leverkusen don't really want to sell (hence the high price), but if they can make Wirtz think they tried maybe he won't be too pissy about it next season.

    Honestly, haven't read the news today, but yesterday I was feeling very 50/50 on whether it would go through or not. We may get him, or we may not. What will be will be.
     
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    High AND tied-up... what is LFC turning into?
     
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    I like Elliott, but I do think Klopp liked him a lot more than Slot does. I get the feeling that, in general, Slot doesn't seem to want to develop young players the way Klopp did. He wants to play the best available to him now, rather than develop players.
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Nunez looks high a lot of the time.

    Vvd is quite mellow. Too mellow.

    It's not like the olden days when fowler would sniff a goal line and ruddock was literally pissed up on the park.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    That's only cos I used propaganda against the baldy one.

    He's not that bad. But he clearly has trust issues.amd standards.

    Lfc is a club that can carry a young player through a game but no english side can carry 3 or 4 through a game unless it's at home.and against really inferior opposition.

    If lfc had gone "strong" v Plymouth with 3 kids on the park then I'm.sure we could carry it but we only went with mcconnell and nyoni plus senior reserves.

    Kelleher
    McConnell gomez quansah tsimikas
    Endo nyoni
    Chiesa Elliott Diaz
    Jota

    What didn't help that day was gomez going off and us sticking mayaba on after not playing for 2 years or more.

    We stuck edo at cb. There was nothing on the bench then

    The seniors let the kids down and let Slot down and he didn't use some after that.

    Anyway, there were were with nyoni learning his trade and the player who could have been at cm playing rb and our cb went down for the season

    Jones was on the bench but said he wasn't bothered or something the morning of the game so again no option travelled.

    We stuck.the hapless nunez on with kone Doherty who was never right for that game.

    To really develop youth you need them to be ready and able first (half ours are injured or not ready or on loan), then know the system (our youths are not aligned to slots system imo, not yet) and finally be minded by senior pros.

    Scratch sides rarely work. Thry have a chance at home
     
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    If Beg is the question, what is the answer? :bandit:
     
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    buy them a coffee , sausage roll or give them some smokes are the norm
     
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    What date did IBWT say this becomes a saga
    Not saying anything till then as it was fair
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Use the search for this thread only and the word saga, filter by author.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    There you go.

    End of the month.

    Seems quite fair to me.
     
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    Wirtz promised himself to Liverpool about 87 years ago.........let it happen ffs
     
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    Surely Tsimikas?
     
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    Mo Salah at present.
     
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