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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 3rd June)

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  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Good Morning. It's Tuesday 3rd June, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road

    6ft 5' beast on Leeds radar

    Leeds United have joined the chase for experienced striker Davie Selke, whose contract with Hamburg is set to expire at the end of June. According to reports, the Whites face stiff competition from Premier League rivals West Ham United and Fulham, as well as Bundesliga side RB Leipzig, for the 30-year-old's signature. While Watford are also mentioned, they are considered outsiders due to the Premier League and Bundesliga interest.

    Selke is coming off a stellar season with Hamburg, where he played a pivotal role in their promotion push, netting an impressive 23 goals in 33 appearances across all competitions. His performances have drawn comparisons to German legend Miroslav Klose, with former striker Klaus Fischer praising his stature and aerial prowess. Selke himself, however, idolizes former Bayern Munich striker Mario Gomez.

    Standing at an imposing 6ft 5in, Selke presents a significant aerial threat and a classic target man presence, a profile rarely seen at Elland Road. His goalscoring record speaks for itself, with 22 goals in 31 league appearances for the Bundesliga 2 runners-up.

    Leeds United have already made initial contact to gauge Selke's wage demands, indicating serious interest in bringing him to West Yorkshire. However, their pursuit may hinge on RB Leipzig's potential withdrawal from the race due to the Red Bull group owning stakes in both clubs, which could present a conflict of interest.

    The potential arrival of Selke would offer Leeds United a different dimension in attack, providing a physical presence and aerial threat that they have arguably lacked in recent seasons. Whether they can overcome the competition and convince Selke to join their ranks remains to be seen, but the club's interest highlights their desire to strengthen their attacking options ahead of the upcoming season.

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    Cold Water Poured on Kalvin Phillips' Leeds Return

    Dreams of a Kalvin Phillips homecoming at Elland Road might be premature, with Graham Smyth of The Yorkshire Evening Post pouring cold water on the idea. While a fairytale return would apease the Elland Road massive, several significant hurdles stand in the way.

    Firstly, Phillips is currently battling an Achilles issue, sidelining him until August. This immediately diminishes the appeal of signing him this summer, as he wouldn't be available for the crucial pre-season preparations and the start of the new campaign.

    Beyond his fitness, Phillips' hefty wages present a major stumbling block. Signed to a long-term contract with Manchester City until 2028, he earns a salary far exceeding Leeds United's current wage structure. Smyth emphasizes that this is the primary obstacle, as Leeds, fresh out of the Championship, simply cannot afford his current earnings.

    The "life-changing deal" Phillips signed with City necessitates a significant pay cut for a permanent return to Leeds. Smyth points out that Phillips would have to forgo "an enormous sum of money," a prospect that makes a permanent transfer highly unlikely.

    Earlier reports suggested a loan deal could circumvent the expensive transfer fee, but even that option isn't straightforward. Phillips' wages are so high that Manchester City would likely have to cover a substantial portion of his salary, similar to the arrangement during his loan spell with Ipswich. While they were willing to do so then, it doesn't guarantee the same willingness this summer.

    Ultimately, while there's no future for Phillips at the Etihad, a return to Leeds is fraught with complications. His injury, combined with his enormous wages, make the prospect of seeing him back in a white shirt more of a pipe dream than a realistic possibility. As Smyth suggests, Phillips is on the kind of money that "only madness could inspire you to walk away from," leaving Leeds fans to temper their expectations.

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  2. Eireleeds1

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    Morning all how times have changed sadly. Couple of decades ago we could attract players from virtually anywhere. Of course we offered ridiculous contracts. Now it appears we’re confined to players surplus to requirements elsewhere and no other club shows an interest in. It’s going to be interesting seeing who are squad are in January. I suspect we’ll probably never have heard of most of the incomings before they arrive. Let’s hope there’s a half dozen Tanaka available
     
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  3. Wakey

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    Morning everyone so kalvin has turned into another Bamford. Content to milk his wages for doing nothing for his parent club. Who can blame kalvin after all Leeds got a chunk of money for him so we cannot complain.
     
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  4. ristac

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    Morning all KP under Bielsa is just a totally different player, we need to move on, a defensive midfielder should be bottom of our list.

    I think we might have to look at a few 3rd and 4th choices on our shopping list. Sadly several teams are in need of a new LB Keeper and Striker it might be a case of availability left after established teams have taken their pick

    I was on the Sunderland forum the other day and a valid point was made, we need to support each other a little bit. It’s no good Burnley and Sunderland finishing with 15 to 20 points each, we need them to be nicking points off teams like Everton and Wolves, we need at least one other team in the mix, preferably 2-3 others

    The relegated three won 12 games between them, Spurs won 11 Wolves won 12 Everton, Man U and West Ham also won 11

    Unless Burnley and Sunderland can nick a few points it’s going to be a hard slog.

    We’re going to need 11-12 wins, 6-7 draws to avoid the drop
     
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  5. Eireleeds1

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    Hopefully we don't need 1-12 wins and 6-7 draws as there's not a chance in hell of us getting that. That would mean a positive result in every second game. Burnley or Sunderland wont either. They might between the two of them. That's me being realistic not negative
     
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  6. ristac

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    That’s been the safety gap the last few seasons mate, going to possibly need over 38 points.

    Hence why we need Burnley and Sunderland to get 20 points each
     
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  7. oldschool

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    Kalvins ship sailed down the Manchester canal for a pot of gold and unfortunately the motor was damaged in its mooring and seemingly is unrepairable...best leave it for citeh to decide what's best <ok>...we just need one more team to join the championship trio for a death star fight for survival ;)
     
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    Love it with Kalvin haha speculation overules speculation.
     
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  9. SIDDAS

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    Lets jot it down player number 501 joining Leeds.
     
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  10. Eireleeds1

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    I know. Im just clinging to the hope that 30 points is the new safety mark. Will be super difficult to get any more
     
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    The only way for it to come down is if all bottom three teams take points off those just above them, if Burnley and Sunderland had 20 points each, as long as it wasn't against us those 20 points would hopefully be from those that finished just above the relegation zone

    Getting dragged into a relegation battle does things to a team, the nerves creep in, those above the zone have had it too easy for two consecutive seasons and like you said in an early post, it is another mini league now, you just expect all three might go straight back down, two definitely will
     
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  12. milkyboy

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    I think it's much finer margins than many people think. If you look at the expected points tables, any of about 8 could very easily have gone down in the year we were relegated.

    The bottom 3 for the last 2 years were nothing like as cut adrift (in terms of the opportunities they created and conceded) as the final points scores.

    What does this tell you? Firstly it's about having quality in the key positions to take your chances and save more of the opponents... but you also need some luck: Sometimes its a few var decisions and a few deflections difference over a season. As Ristac says, once sides get cut adrift losing becomes a habit and confidence is shot... they may still be competitive in games but snatch at chances and make panicky mistakes at the back. That's pretty much how we got relegated.

    Obviously the sides who stay up have now benefitted from extra money for a couple of years. So its more difficult - but not impossible. Recruit well and early, turn elland road into a fortress, and we have a fighting chance.
     
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    Afternoon all. I think (and hope) that we will have enough to survive and possibly even beat a few teams that we were expected to lose against. This is all dependant on signings of course. The point made about losing mentality is totally true. Lose confidence > lose games. We are very good at this. Same applies though the other way, get confience, and get into not losing games. If we can get that confidence from the first game and then I think we have a chance to survive.

    Lastly, no signings yet - This isnt unusal from the 49ERS is it? They stay quiet, sign players when they get them. Never quick from previous history. I would have thought that Solomon would have signed on day 1 of the transfer window opening, but nothing so far.

    Sadly, we just arent that huge club anymore that would attract the best players. We need to affirm ourselves in the premier league for a few seasons before we can start getting that reputation back as a big club in the Premier League. Fingers crossed....
     
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    Well there u go.no incomings till July 1st enjoy your June lads and lasses.
     
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    I was hoping for some speedy arrivals and I wonder if it’s to do with that nasty wording PSR

    A good while back I vaguely remember about reading the middle to end of June as being important, basically that sales before then and signings after would make a positive PSR result

    I guess wages too, do we want to be paying Wages for June if we don’t have to. Personally I’d go all out for early signing but that’s because I’m a supporter, not a chairman or director
     
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    Just been reading a report that due to accounting periods and psr Leeds
    Are unlikely to make any signings till July 1st
    So you can
    All
    Go
    Back
    To bed
     
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    Leeds United are unlikely to make any big-money signings for Daniel Farke's squad until July 1 this summer due to the club's financial planning.
    Leeds and fellow Premier League clubs are widely expected to keep their powder dry when it comes to signing players until the 2025/26 season begins in an accounting sense.

    As of July 1, teams' annual accounts are effectively reset with revenue earned and purchases made from that point on reflected in the financial report ending 30 June, 2026.

    https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/leeds-united-transfers-5158184
     
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  18. Eireleeds1

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    Thank you for
    Translating my effort from Irish to English <laugh>
     
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    Sorry mate I posted then saw you’d posted whilst I was typing
     
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    not realistic but you ideally have all your new signings in for the day pre-season training starts... just because you may choose not to sign them for other reasons, it doesn't mean they aren't all agreed and ready to go

    of course verbal contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on
     
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