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WAR! What is it good for?

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  1. Archers Road

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    You think Netanyahu is ever going to stop? He won’t, until someone stops him. Or until everybody dies. And even then…
     
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  2. FosseFilberto

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    No defence for such actions from any 'lefties' I know - acts of barbarism against civilians should never be 'embraced' and can never be justified.
     
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  3. Star of David Bardsley

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    Yes.

    I’m taking option B if those are what’s available but those aren’t the only options in reality. Gazan society and vast swathes of other countries surrounding little old Israel aren’t ever going to accept a Jewish state next door. There will probably be a brief end to this chapter of war but it will go on forever. Israel will be fine. I’m more concerned with the Pandora’s box that’s been opened in Europe and the US.
     
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  4. Star of David Bardsley

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    That’s very noble of you but you can’t have been looking very hard on October 7th/8th.
     
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  5. FosseFilberto

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    Just as hard as what I've looked at ever since ... and the song remains the same - civilian lives should be sacrosanct in times of war - mistakes and accidents will happen, of course, but the base principle should always be the overriding objective behind military decisions and actions ...
     
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    If you do what you’ve always done

    you’ll get what you’ve always got
     
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  8. Star of David Bardsley

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    I believe you. Honest.
     
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    Absolutely - and that's exactly why things have to change.

    Starting point will be re-defined borders and a strict sovereignty agreement involving all nations in the immediate area (and beyond) - a UN peacekeeping force is currently patrolling the Lebanon border and Hezbollah have abandoned their sites there - something similar will need to be put in place for both Gaza and The West Bank - objections based on 'cost' are completely ludicrous, given the costs of waging wars...

    Personally, hoping the June summit in New York comes up with a road map to lasting peace in the region.
     
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    What you believe is irrelevant and not my concern ... I do however value the opinions of rational thinkers ...
     
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  11. Star of David Bardsley

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    You value the opinions of other Hamas apologists.
     
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  12. FosseFilberto

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    Given that I have never made any 'apologies' for Hamas, that sentence is wrong on all counts ...

    I'd even value your opinions if they were rational - they often aren't ...

    ... and Im not the one continually finding excuses for barbarism and ethnic cleansing ... but if you have a mirror...
     
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    UJNIFIL have been operating in the Lebanon for decades so to think they have been the prime mover in this is a tad naive .
     
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  14. FosseFilberto

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    Didn't say that though, did I? ... I stated facts - what they are doing right now and that Hezbollah have all but disappeared from positions near the border ...
     
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  15. Solid Air 2

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    because the IDF and the Israeli Air force paid them a visit and the cycle starts again .
     
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  16. FosseFilberto

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    ... and because the regular Lebanese army has stepped up to work with the UN ...
     
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  17. Star of David Bardsley

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    You’re fine with certain barbarism and ethnic cleansing. If you prefer not to be honest about it that’s understandable.
     
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    I'm always honest - which is why I condemn barbarity on both sides - you on the other hand have one-way blinkers and victim syndrome that ignores the deaths of women and children that are 'not my people' ... being honest about that doesn't in some way make you noble... just makes you look a bit of a shallow ignorant ****.
     
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    I don’t ignore it. I just acknowledge that your boys are the root cause. I am very open with the fact I couldn’t give a **** about them just as they wouldn’t give a **** about me at best while you get wet over any news that shows Israel in a bad light then don’t acknowledge when you’ve been had by obvious nonsense when the truth comes out.
     
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  20. FosseFilberto

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    Leicester City? ... the Baby Squad?

    Thankfully, not every Jewish person is like you and not every Palestinian favours Hamas or endless war with Israel ... whilst that remains the case there is plenty of reason for optimism and thinking that the cycle of death and destruction can end ... brave leaders needed... and a two state solution <ok>
     
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