I still don’t get how driving a car that weighs a tonne into people can’t be charged with attempted murder?
Injuries are not bad enough and speed wasnt massive and beeping the horn can be used in court. There's enough there with the media trying very hard to make him out to be a lost little soul thst was just scared that proving he drove at people with intent to kill might be difficult. We will see.
They're still holding the other charges back. They just needed charges for today that are 100% safe on prima facie evidence and will be endorsed by the CPS (and they have been). Now he can be arraigned and charged on those indictments tomorrow, then, presumably, remanded until trial. In the meantime, they can gather more evidence and ask further questions regarding other charges. But even if there are no more charges, malicious GBH with intent carries a maximum life charge anyway. He's going away for a long. long, time - even though the Daily Mail seems to think that living in a cul-de-sac should be a mitigating factor.
In which case, it should be attempted manslaughter as he could have very easily killed people, especially the children and baby that were hit.
He's already been charged with intent - beeping his horn won't save him from that. As for his speed, if I deliberately veer off the road into a bus stop, even at 15mph, put everyone in hospital, and even trap kids under my wheels, there are no mitigating factors there. He's just lucky nobody has died (yet), or he would have got done with manslaughter, which does have the same maximum as murder anyway. Unfortunately, there's no such thing as attempted manslaughter.
when you see the social media footage you can see people surrounding the car and and some were attacking it, before he drove off. He could try and come out with the defence I was trying to escape them attacking my vehicle and in a moment of madness I lost the plot. Unfortunately the video footage shown on social media and the news show after his initial speeding away and ploughing through supporters he doesn’t stop and think’ **** **** what what have I done’ he carries on and deliberates turns and drives into the rest of the crowd and is only stoped by the shear number of supporters including children under his car. 30 years+ minimum
It still may be. As an ex-Marine, I hope they go back through every single training and instruction session he ever had as an elite forces soldier to prove beyond doubt that he should and did know exactly what you said - that driving a tonne car into a crowd is effectively using it as a lethal weapon. I think we're about to find out a lot about Paul Doyle's service record - firstly by the Daily Mail/Gb News mob to paint him as a nice guy who was put upon by a howling, Scouse mob; but also from the prosecution to prove that he knew precisely what could happen if he got into a car under the influence and turned it into a lethal weapon. If he's been on a MOD driving course and has been trained to use a car as a weapon (my old mate in the police force 25 years ago told me that the police are trained in such techniques in extreme circumstances), then they've got him, hopefully.
Yep. As you point out in that narrative, nothing in the 'Poor guy trying to escape a mob' narrative explains him veering from one side of the street to another ploughing into pedestrians like Death Race 2000.
There would be a reason why people were attacking his car in the first place, so they need to dig out some earlier footage. Also, he tailgated an ambulance through the road block and that in itself is suspicious. Why would anyone sneak through to a clearly cordoned off road, fully aware of the reason it was closed?
Attempted manslaughter is an oxymoron surely? GBH with intent is an incredibly serious charge in itself mind. Only one step below attempted murder and with multiple counts the sentence will be well into double figures if convicted I imagine.
Yeah I'm not sure how common that is in practice though. It'll definitely be extremely high mind, especially given the high profile nature of the incident.
Quiye from bbc website "A pram carrying a baby boy was spun metres down the street when it was struck, but the child was not hurt." If he dares plead not guilty at the arraignment in August he should get through absolute maximum sentance possible and the should follow on e after the other.
I would say not otherwise it would be on the list of charges; drug use is pretty much like alcohol, a test makes it cut and dry, you're either guilty or you're not.
