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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
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  1. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    On the other hand Danny in those days you could have probably compared a mixed race baby to a chimp and got away with it.
     
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  2. Sooperhoop

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    He did anyway...
     
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    Good to see that the re-nationalised South West Trains isn't worried about staffing costs

    No fewer than 3 "Revenue Protection Officers" on my evening train (6 not exactly packed coaches) from deepest rural Dorset to Waterloo tonight. In addition to the guard of course

    Probably explains why my ticket was so expensive!

    At least the ancient diesel train is running on time.....
     
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    Didn’t the BBC sack him?
     
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    Yeah, they should have ripped up the staffing schedules by now, shouldn't they? They've had three days after all.
     
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    So planning wouldn't have started months ago then??

    The unveiling of GBR was pathetic - it won't even exist for months yet

    Just slap a hastily printed sticker on the side of a train and pretend that transformation of the railways is imminent
     
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  7. Stroller

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    Transformation will take time, but tt least we won't be paying shareholders for a **** service in the meantime.
     
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    There won't be a transformation this Parliament

    Much of the poor service is down to Network Rail, not the TOCs ( a couple of notable exceptions)

    I worked as train crew back in the mid 80s and, I was glad to move on. I was threatened by my union for not wanting to join what I believed to be unfounded strike action. The drivers have done incredibly well in terms of pay (significantly better paid than drivers elsewhere in Europe, even those in Germany) and still have finsl salary pensions

    There will be significant union resistance to many of the changes needed to transform the industry as much will revolve around changes to working practices

    The government should've formulated and announced a proper plan for "transformation" instead of winging it as they are doing in so many other areas. Just another government not wanting to provide detail lest they be held to account. I'm utterly fed up of politicians of all parties and their endless supply of soundbites. Where are the f*cking plans????
     
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    Kneecap axed from TRNSMT....

    Irish rap group Kneecap say they have been axed from the TRNSMT music festival in Glasgow over police concerns about safety.

    Police Scotland said last week that allowing the trio to perform at Glasgow Green on 11 July would require "a significant policing operation".

    It followed a member of the Irish language group being charged with a terror offence after allegedly displaying a flag in support of proscribed organisation Hezbollah at a London gig.

    The Belfast trio were also criticised over 2023 gig footage that appeared to show a band member saying: "The only good Tory is a dead Tory. Kill your local MP."

    Kneecap released a statement saying that, to make up for the TRNSMT cancellation, they would be putting on a new show at Glasgow's O2 Academy on Tuesday 8 July.

    The band said: "Due to concerns expressed by the police about safety at the event, Kneecap can no longer perform at TRNSMT.

    "To the thousands of people who bought tickets, flights and hotels to see us play, we are sorry...it is out of our hands.

    "Glasgow has always been a huge city for us. We've played there many many times, with no issues - ever. Make of that what you will."

    The band later added: "Kneecap didn't 'pull out' of TRNSMT - Kneecap were removed."

    TRNSMT promoters DF Concerts said: "Due to concerns expressed by the police about safety at the event, Kneecap will no longer perform at TRNSMT on Friday, 11 July.
     
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  11. Star of David Bardsley

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    Good news though that they’re putting on an extra night in Beirut.
     
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  12. Stroller

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    A US federal court has ruled Trump's 'big beautiful' tarriffs to be illegal, and the White House has immediately appealed the decision. This will likely then go to the Supreme Court for a final ruling and follows the 9-0 Supreme Court ruling that Kilmar Abrego Garcia should be returned from El Salvador, which Trump has ignored.

    It's all going to come to a head quite soon, it seems to me. Either the Supreme Court will do its job and cause the downfall of Trump, or he will decide that he can ignore it once more and go on to become the full-on fascist dictator than some predicted. I hope for decent Americans that the courts prevail.
     
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    Farage and Reform stealing Blue Labour’s clothes just as Starmer is drifting in that direction - socially conservative, pro family, British ‘values’ anti immigration, ‘patriotism’, generous welfare for the deserving*, state control of alleged key industries. Combined with his promises on income tax the public school stockbroker is dressing up like a real man of the people. A particular group of people of course.




    *as defined by socially conservative principles.
     
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    It's a strange evolution, the Tories have turned to dust, your mate Starmer is trying to make Labour into Reform and good 'ol Nige is turning Reform into Labour Lite
     
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    At the risk of being shot down, whatever happened to 'decent' British politicians? There was a time when there were candidates of all persuasions who had a degree of integrity

    Maybe there's not enough money in politics today and the smart people are choosing business as the real power

    Feels like we've got the Z List dregs nowadays
     
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    It's just a reasonably paid job with fantastic perks for people who've studied politics and whose parents know someone and they can't be arsed having a career first
     
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    Starmer is just about to relent on WFA and the two-child benefit cap and Farage has indeed stolen Labour's clothes on these issues, albeit briefly, but will anyone remember in four years' time? Starmer is plainly running scared, though, and his speech yesterday criticising Farage was like he was conducting an election campaign. Just get on with the job, Suckear.

    The child benefit issue is an interesting one when set alongside the manic obsession with levels of immigration. If we don't want immigrants, we need people to have lots more children. Only the right type of people, though.
     
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    Farage is running rings round Starmer and seems to be deliberately targeting the discontent in Labour by making his plans on Pensioners and the 2 child benefit cap to force Starmer into reacting. It's making Starmer look very weak in that he's rattled by a party with 5 MPs. It just underlines the fact that Starmer just doesn't have a politician's antennae, as Rosie Duffield says, "he's always been useless"...
     
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    See kids
    You don't need to get a real job
    Nothing can stop you even being prime minister
    Just study politics
    Work for politicians


    What was Jacinda Ardern's job history?

    She joined the New Zealand Labour Party at the age of 17. After graduating from the University of Waikato in 2001, Ardern worked as a researcher in the office of then-New Zealand Prime Minister Helen Clark. She later worked in London as an adviser in the Cabinet Office during Tony Blair's premiership.
     
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