Money and ciggies was it for me. Used to go football then the rest of the evening was spent on the piss, like clockwork every home game, could easily get a pint from the age of 15 in them days, long as you disappeared if the old bill rocked up. Food would have been the local cafe at the time across from the station (no longer there), fry up, might have turned into a Wimpy one time as well, can't remember clearly.
I use to go in all weathers them days, didn't have a care in the world. Remember going in the snow one time, got there and the ****ers cancelled the game. Didn't have anyway of communication then.
Salient points. I said of how I walked up Mill Lane from West Derby Village (about 400 metres) at about 1pm (they didn't even set off from Allerton until 2.30pm) and already both sides of the road were crammed with parked cars meaning you had to walk mostly in the road with moving traffic. There should have been a 1-mile parking exclusion zone from the route. The central reservation of Queen's Drive was crammed with cars too - something I never saw even in 2019. There was officially 850k in 2019, and it's no exaggeration to say this was about 50% more at least. Some estimates say 1.5m (that may be a bit inflated), but the police said they were expecting at least 1m and that's easily what we got, so the crowd numbers didn't take them by surprise - or shouldn't have. I'll make the point again though that it was leaving the parade that was - in my experience- the dicey bit, mostly caused when thousands of people try to cram down roads when parked cars are hemming you in and there's hardly any pavement to walk on. Just imagine the crowds coming out of a cup final and Wembley Way had parked cars all along the sides, and some dickheads were trying to edge through the crowds beeping their horns. Then multiply that by 10 miles. Some are suggesting holding the next celebration at a venue, as they did in the 70s when they used to hold them on St George's plateau outside the library, but we are now talking over a million, not just a couple of hundred thousand. Considering over 1m were on the streets, the number of other incidents is negligible, but that said, I can well imagine there were several more confrontations between vehicles and fans that didn't escalate into what happened on Dale St - but could have been worse. I can't think of anywhere in Merseyside, even Sefton Park, where you could get a million people into. And the traffic and pedestrian controls would be even more onerous.
Unfortunately the link to the pic I mentioned doesn't work any more... https://not606.com/threads/leicester-citys-greatest-moment.198390/#post-4341894
Yeah I saw from some of the video footage that news channels put up, they were focusing on the car, but I was more focusing on the crowd and how packed it was, it only needs someone to cause a panic and you have a stampede on your hands, see it at Indian events abroad when a crush occurs because of lack of crowd control in confined spaces. I think you part hit on a more sensible solution in light of this, and that is use of the football stadium or some beer parks, break the numbers up into segments across the Liverpool area - so you don't have so many people congregating in one place. Obviously I don't know the answers, they are just mere suggestions. But it's clear it needs better management, even without that dickhead in the car, the mass of people gathering so packed in confined spaces has to be a major concern. Especially in these days of terrorist attacks. And defo need to keep people and traffic apart.
How come the number of injured in Liverpool is starting to rise again? Injury payout claims by any chance?
Yeh been losing interest slowly and surely as the years pass though doesn’t have the same energy it had when Test match cricket was on the BBC back in the day enjoy a nice 20/20 blast dont have time to sit through 5 dayers anymore Attended Pak v Eng matches at Old Trafford if I get chance to grab tickets not Test…one dayers
I remember chatting on here a few years back, I think it might have been at Fulham, where crowd congestion had built up before a game, people were rammed in a side street, and I remember asking back then, what lessons have we learned from Hillsborough, because to me it seemed none. I still don't even think modern football stadiums are safe, and for me they are not correctly monitoring the numer of falling incidents inside grounds. Everton immediately springs to mind, with the steepness or the appearance of it, at it's new gaff. I just feel sometimes we seem to go full circle and incidents continue to happen and in light of the most recent incident at Liverpool, what have we learned, because from where I'm sitting the answer is nothing.
I've already got my claim in, twisted me foot as I went to make a cuppa during the commercial break of the news channel covering it.
Thats just sensible though, especially this season Chelsea are an unknown entity, not only are they my team, but we play great one week and like a pack of dribbling spastics the next, never know what ya gonna get with this current Chels.
Nah this season was ****e for it as we were always terrible odds so have to bet on hammerings etc. Or wait for the rare occasions where we weret winning at HT.
Rather funny the amount of stick Maresca has been getting from some quarters - been managing 2 seasons - in his first he take us up as Champions from the second tier - in his second he secures Champions League football for Chelsea and gets them to a European final ... hmmm ... if Chelsea actually win tonight I would say they've had a better season than Arsenal ... just saying
