Those all just seem examples of straight loans being terminated to sell to another club. Cannon, for instance, was just a straight up loan, there was no option in that deal with Stoke. I do wonder if there are examples of options being overridden with a penalty fee paid instead, but presume that would have particular windows to trigger. E.g. we didn't have an option to buy Rushworth, but there was a recall window (other than in cases of injuries, which is eventually how they recalled him) but I do wonder if we had an option to buy a keeper (e.g. Baxter) and Chelsea lost all their keepers to injury whether they would have been able to override our option. Again as above though, the instances of something like that happening are so incredibly rare or non-existent (as evidenced by Google not really showing any examples of players with options in their loans being recalled/sold to another club) that we're using a lot of energy mulling over a hypothetical that just won't happen. If we want to buy Oscar he'll be ours, if we decide against it, he will likely join another club either now or in January. And that's all there is to it.
Whatever happened to that Huddersfield winger who was playing in France? Wasn't his contract supposed to be up this summer. We in for him?
To show how unlucky we were last season.... Barry (Villa) cost is a 7 figures loan fee plus all of his wages... sports saying he will go out on loan again with Birmingham and Wrexham making enquiries...
Hopefully our good relationship with Villa might help him to come back here. Plus it was already reported back in January that discussions took place for him to come back in the summer.
You would hope it’s true that the reason we paid such a hefty loan fee was to get him this year but I don’t hold much hope
But our constant instability can't help. Whilst other clubs can say this is our game plan, this is our manager, these are our aims and budgets and here's where you'll fit in, we'll have to tell him yeah we want you, and we hope that whoever our manager is will want you, not sure where he'll fit you in or what he'll want from his wingers but don't worry about it we'll make it work...
And that's the problem. Even if by some miracle we have a manager in place by the end of the week, given the previous form of the owner, would you want to come and play under a manager who may not be in the post in 8 months? I reckon that plenty of players would have their doubts about it, and would probably need more money to persuade them.
This has dragged on for too long, City have probably missed out on signing players, the clowns have to get it right this time. Oh sorry again, that's a Cardiff fan talking about their managerial vacancy. The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
My standards are much like Groucho's principles. The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
There's apparently an announcement imminent but I've so far been wrong on everything I've said on this management appointment so don't hold your breath.
The view of a financial analyst... “Hull City’s last set of accounts weren’t particularly pleasant reading,” Williams opened. “They’ve invested a lot under the new owner, but without the ultimate pay-off in terms of promotion. They were nearly relegated last season despite having one of the highest wage bills of the non-parachute payment clubs. Their wages-to-turnover ratio was 139 per cent. Even by Championship standards, where nearly all clubs spend more than they earn, that’s bad. Only two clubs had a worse ratio. “They did well with player sales in 2024-25. They’ll have made big profits for PSR purpose on Jaden Philogene and Jacob Greaves. “I think that could actually see them swing to a profit for the season or at least a relatively modest loss, even though it looks like the wage bill will have increased pretty dramatically. “Remember, for PSR purposes, the £25m or so they spent on new signings is amortised over five years, whereas player sale profits are booked immediately. So I think that gives them plenty of PSR headroom to spend again this summer. You’ve also got allowable expenses like infrastructure and academy investment which gives them even more breathing space. “I know the owners has said they will have to be more frugal this summer, which makes sense. But he seems to have suggested that’s because of PSR, whereas I don’t really think that’s the case. It’s probably more of a cash flow issue, paying for transfer instalments, a higher wage bill and running costs etc. “You do have to scale back investment during different squad cycles. Owners will typically look at in a two, three, four-season timeframe rather than having a win-now mentality. Last season was clearly an ambitious, win-now one, but I think there is capacity to spend pretty big again if the owner is willing to commit the funds. “That’s probably the key issue here. The club already owes Ilicali £66m, How much more is he willing to give them to underwrite losses needed to fund new signings? We’ll have to wait and see, but there’s certainly scope for greater spending if he chooses.”
