Are these not called 'escape routes' for mobile phone thieves.
Off Topic Hull City Centre Public Realm Strategy
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It’s been done awhile hasnt it? Anyone actually moving into it?
I don't know mate, haven't heard anything about any company moving in.
The sign was only put up last week.
It's still available. Just like the former M&S building they refurbed.
If there were just the two, there's every chance you wouldn't hold them up much, particularly at rush hour as with stops, loading and unloading, the over all average speed would be similar, although it could accumulate if you did it all day long.
You can check it yourself by noting a cyclist near you as you set off. If they're following the same route, they're liable to be quite near you at the end too.
It would be more of an issue if the numbers of cyclists reached reasonable numbers.
The argument offered tends to be along the lines that those cyclists would reduce the number of cars and/or people on busses so it would balance, but there was little to no evidence to support that claim.
It's academic, as there was no meaningful increase in cyclists. Mind, that's based on gut feeling and experience, as there's never been a meaningful count before, during or after.
While we’re on road markings and signage (sort of) does anyone know why the **** the national speed limit sign is used instead of just using a sign with a number on.
I mean even if you ignore the obvious difficulty for foreign visitors, there’s loads of locals who think that non motorway dual carriageways are 60, when in fact they’re 70, and plenty who seem to think windy little B roads are 70 instead of 60.
Surely it would be safer and keep traffic moving more efficiently to just put a big number up instead of a random black line requiring each driver to interpret it?
I mean even if you ignore the obvious difficulty for foreign visitors, there’s loads of locals who think that non motorway dual carriageways are 60, when in fact they’re 70, and plenty who seem to think windy little B roads are 70 instead of 60.
Surely it would be safer and keep traffic moving more efficiently to just put a big number up instead of a random black line requiring each driver to interpret it?
It's also messed up as people are never sure what a 'dual carriageway' actually is. It doesn't just mean two lanes. Some are single lanes.
Oh, and part of the reason for the single sign is cost, as different vehicles have different speed limits on them.
Using the NSL sign negates the need for variant signs to cover all vehicles. For example the speed on a dual carriageway is 70mph for cars and motorcycles but 60 for goods vehicles, coaches, motorhomes and towed caravans.
While we're on signage, why doesnt common sense prevail and have gradual decrease signage instead of going from 60 to 30 or 50 to 30...
OMG - That is amazing. Didn't realise just how much the estuary and my city had evolved since my younger days.
Many thanks for posting
Peter
As a frequent pavement walker, its ****ing dangerous these days.
Grown adults brushing past you on pushbikes at speed with no warning shout. If you're not a child and cycling on the pavement you're a ****. Grow a ****ing pair or walk.
Electric bikes, Deliveroo type bikes are akin to Motorbikes these days and should be illegal on pedestrian areas.
I think there's an example of that in the HDM article that started this conversation. They say the road 'will return to a dual carriageway', which it surely has been all along.