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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. All_Southampton_FC

    All_Southampton_FC Well-Known Member

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    But it's on the BBC news homepage. It's meant to be a reliable source for information.
     
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  2. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Understood, and as I said, it's not something I would have put there (largely because it's written dreadfully), but they've given the opportunity for their Culture person to have her opinion on it. It's not the news story itself.
     
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  3. Le Tissier's Laces

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    For what it's worth, Naja (who is great) who used to be the BBC Digital News editor, has recently left. Not sure if it's her replacement that has decided to put those kind of opinion pieces on the front page. Who knows. But it's not meant to be the 'news'/reporting piece that represents anything other than that person's opinion (which you may or may not agree with).
     
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  4. San Tejón

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    Here’s a very good take on the deal Labour has achieved with the EU and it includes one of the best descriptions of Farage I have heard when James refers to him as the “arsonist sitting around the corner with his zippo lighter”.

     
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  5. StJabbo1

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    HIGNFY
    At his inauguration Mass, Pope Leo met President Zelensky – JD Vance was furious, as neither of them wore a suit
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  6. Ian Thumwood

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    Just sitting down after eating a bowl of homemade vegetable pansit and popped on line.

    I think this is common sense by Starmer. Just think that the tide is now turning and this is the first step towards joining the EU.

    The BBC vox pop in Radio 4 was fascinating...the people in oppposition tended to be elderly and poorly informed with no serious response to the argument.

    I agree with the comment about Farage standing by with his box of matches and think he will make hay about this. He has already posed with a photo of a fish ! I just wonder if Starmer's move will prove Farage wrong . My guess is that this will ultimstely undermine Farage.
     
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  7. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    This is the same Farage who, when he was an MEP and a member of the EU Fisheries Committee, attended just one meeting out of a possible 42. That’s how much he actually cares about Britain’s fishermen and women.
     
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  8. tiggermaster

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    So my understanding is that the fishing deal will give the same advantages, or otherwise, that the Norwegians enjoy; who describe their fishing industry as a major contributor to their economy ...
     
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  9. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    It extends the current deal, which the fisher-folk voted for in huge numbers, by 12 years, but also makes massive improvements to the ability of those fisher-folk to actually sell their fish, rather than letting it rot.
     
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  10. StJabbo1

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    Some extracts from the linked article below https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-uk-fisheries-fishing-b2753650.html
    "Critics have branded Keir Starmer’s fishing deal with the EU “a horror show” for the industry after he granted European trawler fleets 12 years of access to UK waters.
    The roll over of the existing fisheries deal to 2038 will benefit the British fishing industry, the prime minister has claimed, by allowing the sale of fish caught in UK waters to be sold in the EU without veterinary checks, removing a costly post-Brexit barrier.
    Sir Keir has also unveiled a £360m fund to support fishing communities and modernise the British fishing fleet."

    "UK's seafood exports down by 26% since Brexit
    Despite claims that the fishing industry was stifled by the EU, seafood exports are down by 118,000 tonnes per year compared to 2019."

    "The core elements remain unchanged from the Conservatives’ post-Brexit fisheries deal, first implemented in 2020, and continues to allow EU fishermen access to UK waters."
     
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    Never met a Brexiteer who could say more than ‘well it wasn’t the Brexit we voted for’ when quizzed about it. The fact is that is because the Brexit you voted on couldn’t have been achieved after the break up of the British Empire!
     
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  13. Ian Thumwood

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    It is only rabid Brexiters who think leaving the EU has worked. The realisation amongst most people is that it has achieved nothing but chaos and that immigration had nothing to do with our membership.
     
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  14. Shandy_top_89

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    Just shows how absolutely cooked our media and social media is.

    This is the mildest of the mild reasonable and common sense action that in no way undermines Brexit and we are just being spammed with ‘BETRAYAL’ ‘SURRENDER’ ‘CAPITULATION’ from every direction.

    No wonder that anyone who doesn’t really follow politics thinks we are in the midst of a disaster, being force fed made up hysterical bollocks 24/7.
     
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  15. Archers Road

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    Maybe, but the fact that the Daily Mail is the UKs best selling newspaper should alert you to the fact that there are large numbers of frightened angry 'anti-wokeists' who are terrified of European culture (whatever that even is).
     
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  17. San Tejón

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    I want to see more of this from Starmer and all Labour MPs. They have to keep putting it out there that Farage is anti NHS, anti worker and unpatriotic. Keep on telling the truth and it might get heard.



    KEIR Starmer slammed Nigel Farage last night, saying he doesn’t have a patriotic bone in his body.

    The PM told backbenchers Mr Farage’s Reform are Labour’s main rivals at the next election.

    And in a speech to the Parliamentary Labour Party, he vowed: “We will take the fight to him.”

    He branded Mr Farage: “A state-slashing, NHS-privatising, Putin apologist without a single patriotic bone in his body.”

    Workers

    The PM also referred to a notorious video in which Mr Farage said car giant Jaguar “deserves” to go bust because he didn’t like an advert for the firm.

    He said: “Every opportunity he has had in this Parliament to back working people, he’s voted against. Telling the workers at Jaguar Land Rover they deserve to go bust.”

    Pointing to successes including JLR being protected by a US trade deal, rising wages, falling waiting lists and school breakfast clubs, he added: “Nigel Farage stands for absolutely none of this.”
     
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  18. StJabbo1

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    Labour, Lib Dems, Greens and others opposed to Reform and Reform lite AKA the tories, need to aggressively point out the lies, mis/disinformation and lack of ability of the right.
     
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  19. Archers Road

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    They do, but they face an uphill struggle getting that message across, with much of the UK media (including BBC News) happy to grant Farage a soft ride, while being unwilling to give Labout a scrap of favourable coverage
     
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  20. Shandy_top_89

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    Good example of something;

    BBC Politics Live today doesn't have a Conservative rep, they have replaced them with Reform UK.

    There is no Conservative rep, no Lib Dem rep, no SNP rep.

    Only Labour and Reform UK.

    Shows how the BBC are actively promoting Reform.
     
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