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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    I find it weird that nobody is trying to off him now that he's the President...
     
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    I would rather Trump was found out and that this America First nonsense was proven to be failed ideology. If Trump died we would just end up with Vance and he is potentially worse!
     
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  3. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Maybe some kind of Day of the Triffids-like cataclysm affecting anyone who has ever worn a MAGA hat.
     
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    Kind of undoes the natural causes element here! <laugh>
     
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  5. San Tejón

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    This bodes well for the future.

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  6. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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  7. StJabbo1

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    When I first saw this I thought it was a wind up, a fake, but no he ****ing did it. He's a wrongun no doubt, not fit for purpose.
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  8. Ian Thumwood

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    I am waiting for thr first Reform councellor to resign due to historic Tweets.
     
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  10. saintrichie123

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    You spelt **** wrong.
     
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  11. Ian Thumwood

    Ian Thumwood Well-Known Member

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    Tice is an idiot. I just think the current fettish for Reform is an 'I agree with Nick' moment. Where are the Lib Dens now?

    The Reform Party are riding the crest of a populist wave at the moment. After last week, they need to deliver but i just feel they will be heavily scrutinised by the press and will come up short. Ultimately, the press is going to have field day and Reform will be a fringe party after the next election. They are a threat to the Conservatives and that is about it. Otherwise it is a mistake to afford them.any credibility.
     
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  12. Le Tissier's Laces

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    So reopening Alcatraz, and 100% tariffs on movies not made in America.

    Yeah, he’s not mad at all, is he?
     
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  13. Ian Thumwood

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    I would back a reciprocal ban on American films. No more Marvel films stinking out the cinema and a bit more originality from Europe. American produces too many films where the script is phoned in. We can do better in the UK.
     
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  14. thereisonlyoneno7

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    I genuinely don't get it. I just cannot see what he is trying to achieve. It isn't about being left or right or centre, but WTF is he trying to achieve. I am baffled.
     
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  15. tomw24

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    Yes, bankrupting all of our cinemas will be very productive.
     
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    I feel like he just watched Escape from Alcatraz and had both ‘ideas’ at the same time…
     
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  17. Archers Road

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    We don’t though, that’s the problem. We can, sure - I watched Tinker, Tailor, Soldier Spy last night. But I also read an interview with Gary Oldman, who has directed one movie, the critically acclaimed Nil by Mouth, but has not been able to get funding for another. In Hollywood, he probably could if he chose the right project, but he wants to make a movie in his own country on his own terms. His record as an actor should justify his wish to that that, but he hasn’t been able to get the modest (by film industry standard) funding he needs.
     
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    Do you all remember Farage kicking off, last year, about not being allowed to lay a wreath at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Day?
    He had to be reminded that only political party leaders with more than 5 MPs had that honour.
    The win at Runcorn would have given him the 6th MP and the right to lay a wreath this year BUT with Rupert Lowe now operating as an independent, following the suspension of the party whip, Farage still only has 5 MPs, technically.
     
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  19. San Tejón

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    The Story the American System Doesn’t Want You to Hear

    By Tracy Michelle

    A thirteen-year-old girl accused a man of rape. Not just any man, but a billionaire. A man who would go on to hold the most powerful office in the world. It should have stopped him. It should have mattered, but it didn’t.

    In 2016, as Donald Trump campaigned for the presidency, a woman using the name Katie Johnson filed a lawsuit claiming that, at age 13, she had been raped multiple times by Trump and Jeffrey Epstein at one of Epstein’s parties at his New York City apartment. She was a child in a room with two of the most dangerous men in the country. She came forward. She tried. The case was withdrawn—not because she lied or because her story fell apart, but because she was terrified. Lisa Bloom, her attorney, confirmed that Katie received threats. Not warnings or gossip, but threats. She was supposed to hold a press conference and be heard. Instead, she disappeared. She disconnected her phone. Her story didn’t die because it was untrue. It died because she was alone.

    How Many Times Have We Seen This Before?

    Katie Johnson was not the first. She will not be the last.

    Sixteen women have publicly accused Donald Trump of sexual assault or misconduct. One said he raped her in a dressing room. Another said he forced himself on her when she was a child. Others said he groped them, kissed them without consent, grabbed them in pageant dressing rooms. He denied every single one, and he called them liars. He said they were making it up for attention and then ran for president. He won.

    E. Jean Carroll came forward decades after Trump raped her in a department store dressing room. The world laughed. He called her a liar. A jury found him guilty of sexual abuse, but it didn’t matter. He still walked free. Bill Cosby’s victims spent years screaming into the void before anyone listened. Harvey Weinstein silenced his accusers with money and threats. The Catholic Church buried thousands of child abuse cases. Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell ran an international trafficking ring that catered to the most powerful men in the world. They went down, but their clients walked free.

    Larry Nassar was trusted with the bodies of young girls—Olympians, gymnasts, children—while he molested them under the guise of medical treatment. They told their coaches, trainers, and officials. Nobody wanted to hear them. The institution and money were more important. By the time Nassar was finally held accountable, hundreds of girls had already been abused.

    Jerry Sandusky was a legend at Penn State. He molested young boys for decades. People knew. A man saw him rape a child in the showers and told his superiors. Nothing happened. The program was worth too much. The coach was too valuable. The child was a footnote.

    The pattern repeats itself—victims come forward, their voices are questioned, and the powerful walk away unscathed.

    The Names, The Stories, The Silence

    Kristin Anderson sat in a Manhattan bar in the 1990s when a man next to her reached up her skirt and touched her vagina through her underwear. She turned and recognized the man as Donald Trump.

    E. Jean Carroll met Trump in a department store in 1995 or 1996. She described him pushing her into a dressing room, forcing his fingers inside her, then his penis.

    Rachel Crooks was a 22-year-old receptionist in 2005 when she met Trump in an office building. He grabbed her, pulled her in, and kissed her on the mouth.

    Jessica Leeds sat next to Trump on a plane in the early 1980s. He kissed her, groped her chest, and reached up her skirt. She moved to another seat in coach. “He was like an octopus,” she said.

    Summer Zervos was an Apprentice contestant in 2007. She met Trump at a Beverly Hills hotel to discuss a job opportunity. Instead, he grabbed her breasts, kissed her, and tried to lead her into a bedroom.

    Temple Taggart McDowell was Miss Utah USA in 1997. Trump kissed her without consent on two separate occasions.

    Four other women said Trump walked in on them while they were undressing at pageants. Buzzfeed reported three more women confirmed the pageant stories but refused to go public.

    The allegations span decades, from the early 1980s to 2013. The stories follow the same pattern—Trump is accused of forcing himself on women—groping them, kissing them without consent—only to deny every allegation, dismiss his accusers as liars, and claim they are politically motivated

    This is how the system works. This is how men like Trump win.

    Power and Silence: How the System Protects Its Own

    Trump didn’t need to prove his innocence. He only needed time. He dragged the case out, making it too difficult to pursue, and let the system work in his favor. This is what he has always done. A man who used lawsuits as weapons, who crushed his enemies in court, who buried his mistakes with money and threats. A child did not stand a chance.

    The powerful do not have to answer for their sins. The system was built for them.

    Trump bragged about grabbing women. Nothing happened. Dozens of women accused him of assault. Nothing happened. A child accused him of rape, and the case vanished before it could even begin.

    Had we listened to Katie Johnson, had we listened to any of them, maybe we would not be here now. Trump didn’t rise in spite of these accusations; he rose in a system that proved power could erase them. His ability to face multiple allegations without consequence only reinforced his authority.

    The American Double Standard

    The U.S. government condemns foreign dictators for human rights abuses but lets its own elite operate without consequence. It calls out corruption abroad but allows billionaires to buy their way out of justice. It punishes nations for failing to protect their citizens but lets its own children be silenced, erased, and ignored.

    How does a country that lets the rich escape accountability claim to stand for democracy? How does a nation that refuses to believe survivors call itself a defender of freedom?

    America calls itself a beacon of justice. Justice for whom?

    If We Don’t Change, This Will Keep Happening

    This is not just about one man. There will always be another Trump. Another Epstein. Another Cosby. Another Weinstein. Another Sandusky. Another Nassar. Another name added to the list of powerful men who used power as a shield while their victims carried the weight alone.

    If the justice system cannot hold them accountable, then what hope is there for anyone else?

    Please Share!

    Read more:

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/assault-allegations-donald-trump-recapped

    https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1274&context=mjgl

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...led-epstein-files-say-relationship-rcna161354

    https://www.hachettebooks.com/landing-page/all-the-presidents-women/



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Johnson

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/25/trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-timeline

    https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/katie-johnson-civil-case-for-rape-trump-epsteinpdf/257375882

    Katie Joynson tells her story
     
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  20. It'sOnlyAGame

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    The rape of children is a disgusting practice that is unfortunately commonplace in many countries. But equally commonplace is the willingness of people who know what's going on and either cover it up, claim some ulterior motive or play down the seriousness of the crime. In fact anything to protect the offenders and those who cover it up. Good that you've found a story about Trump though.
     
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