Off Topic Lord Mayor

Interesting thread!

 

There's problems and issues with all types of healthcare systems, but the best functioning for all seem to be the French/German/Italian/Norwegian/swedish models where insurance and a level of privatisation are allowed, but covered by the insurance or regulated by the government. The spiralling costs are inevitable in all systems due to the nature of medicine prolonging our lives now, but the UK model is suffering most.

 

Ha ha. Yesterday was 'workers day' for me, supposedly a day off created originally by the unions. Bit of a liberty that office workers and fake jobs get to benefit from it should be a day that all the white collar jobs have to do a blue collar days work, whilst we get to rest. If politicians were made to do it, with the same pressure and demands of a normal day, we'd definitely see traditional blue collar salaries rise and office work salaries fall. Hopefully the AI revolution will see off the paper pushers and we'll return to more equal salaries, but it will be too late for me by then! (Written in jest, but not entirely).

 

Hull Councillors and many in other areas objected to having the illegal migrants foisted on them in the way it was done. It was/is an initiative pushed totally by central government(s).

 

Angus Young, who has been doing his best to smear and undermine Luke Campbell, reporting Reform have won in Lincolnshire.

 

Runcorn by election gone to Reform. Massive swing.
Lincolnshire mayor Reform. Massive majority.
The tide has turned. Is 2 party politics now dead? Even if not, the government of the day are now going to have to listen to what so many people are saying ... and act. (And no, it's not just about immigration, it's about far far more than that).
GTFI.

 

Farage very tongue in cheek saying 'a vote for the conservatives is a vote for labour', in the same way the Conservatives said the same at the GE. Will this make a ha'porth of difference..?. For me the expression is, 'there are none so blind as those that cannot see.'

 

Unfortunately, a government listening is a thing of the past and something I doubt we'll see again

 

Luke Campbell does that himself by opening his mouth

 

Unfortunately not, much like the Premier league the system will be tweaked to keep out the newcomers.

 

did you know his father was a tool maker

 

You might be right, but tbf, I'm not so sure.
I think they will adapt to (try to) survive. We are already starting to see it and the rumblings from within the party will only grow stronger as Reform (hopefully) takes more and more of a foothold.
I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, as I'd rather they didn't survive. But on the other hand, another 4 and a bit years is a long time for the continuing damage & insanity to continue, so maybe the more they listen and act the better. Double edged sword.

 

Already the Labour government is being influenced by the swing to Reform. Hence the cutting of the foreign aid budget and Starmer's aforementioned stupid promise to "stop the boats." Stupid thing to say, because how is he (or anyone) going to do that? Unless this country is willing to spend billions upon billions of pounds on border security, holding / detention / processing centres and deportation schemes, I don't see how we provide any kind of effective deterrent.

 

Really?
The answers are really simple, and quick.
IF they had a spine.
I guess I can't go further (out of respect to this decent thread).

 

And right on cue in related news the German political party afd has just been declared an extremist entity.

 

No UK government is going to sanction using armed force against unarmed people on boats if that's what you are suggesting

 

Nope, I'm not

 

Well just say it then

 

Poland manage to do it. Remove the incentive.

 

Why are they making the dangerous journey to get here? To be with other family members? Benefits?

Either way, they're here illegally. Stop any benefits whatsoever, and detain them until their citizenship can be ascertained and returned to their country of origin - and I'm not meaning in hotel rooms...

Stop the incentives and they will stop making the perilous journey.

I'm speaking specifically about those entering the country illegally. We should absolutely still have asylum processes, but people need to enter them through the right channels.