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Wednesday's Meetings

Ascot
Flat 7 Races 1:10-4:40p.m.
Pontefract
Flat 7 Races 1:50-5:10p.m.
Punchestown Festival
N/H 8 Races 2:30-6:35p.m.
Brighton(E)
Flat 7 Races 4:45-7:55p.m.
Southwell(E)
A/W 8 Races 5:05-8:40p.m.

Racecards
At The Races
Sporting Life
Racing Post

Good Luck <ok>
 
Punchestown
14,30 Fairyland Opera 17/2 e/w sky six places, five others
18,05 Lightkeeper 6/1 e/w WH and PP four places
 
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1.10 Ascot-Siren Suit

Each Way @ 10-1 [William Hill]

To improve from debut run
 
As it is very quiet on here, can I ask a question -


Has the proliferation of data in horse racing helped your betting?

I ask, because I have been studying the sectionals and jumping data on At The Races, and I was fondly remembering a conversation I had with eez. The conversation was about how few people read pace and use that as an angle for their betting. This was in a period where I was concentrating on flat racing and enjoying working out the pace and likely angles of run styles.

Now, since then, data has exploded in the sport. It has helped me massively since I had a conversation with @Ron on here about a Southwell race, and it has rekindled my belief in understanding race pace and using data can help aid betting.

Views then folk?
 
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NassauBoard said:
As it is very quiet on here, can I ask a question -


Has the proliferation of data in horse racing helped your betting?

I ask, because I have been studying the sectionals and jumping data on At The Races, and I was fondly remembering a conversation I had with eez. The conversation was about how few people read pace and use that as an angle for their betting. This was in a period where I was concentrating on flat racing and enjoying working out the pace and likely angles of run styles.

Now, since then, data has exploded in the sport. It has helped me massively since I had a conversation with @Ron on here about a Southwell race, and it has rekindled my belief in understanding race pace and using data can help aid betting.

Views then folk?
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eez ...................... great bloke <ok>
 
NassauBoard said:
As it is very quiet on here, can I ask a question -


Has the proliferation of data in horse racing helped your betting?

I ask, because I have been studying the sectionals and jumping data on At The Races, and I was fondly remembering a conversation I had with eez. The conversation was about how few people read pace and use that as an angle for their betting. This was in a period where I was concentrating on flat racing and enjoying working out the pace and likely angles of run styles.

Now, since then, data has exploded in the sport. It has helped me massively since I had a conversation with @Ron on here about a Southwell race, and it has rekindled my belief in understanding race pace and using data can help aid betting.

Views then folk?
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Plays a more significant role in flat racing I think? You do hear it talked about MUCH MORE on the proper racing channel (Racing UK) rather than ITV and they do excellent pre- and post-race assessments. The analysis of the way Kopek Des Bordes and Salvator Mundi cut each other's throats yesterday was spot on.
 
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NassauBoard said:
As it is very quiet on here, can I ask a question -


Has the proliferation of data in horse racing helped your betting?

I ask, because I have been studying the sectionals and jumping data on At The Races, and I was fondly remembering a conversation I had with eez. The conversation was about how few people read pace and use that as an angle for their betting. This was in a period where I was concentrating on flat racing and enjoying working out the pace and likely angles of run styles.

Now, since then, data has exploded in the sport. It has helped me massively since I had a conversation with @Ron on here about a Southwell race, and it has rekindled my belief in understanding race pace and using data can help aid betting.

Views then folk?
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It certainly helps to come up with a more logical reasoning for a selection but there are so many other factors that are difficult to take into account. For example:
  • will the trainer be trying to win the race
  • it could all go wrong at the starting gate
  • if the horse has never raced on the surface (in public) will it perform better or worse than it has on the surface(s) on which it has raced
  • the effect on a front runner of a strong head wind
I'm sure you can think of many more Nass

One thing is for sure, it isn't easy

It was much easier when Gordon Richards was riding, especially at Chepstow <laugh>
 
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NassauBoard said:
As it is very quiet on here, can I ask a question -


Has the proliferation of data in horse racing helped your betting? Nah I just back the fav <badger><badger><badger>

I ask, because I have been studying the sectionals and jumping data on At The Races, and I was fondly remembering a conversation I had with eez. The conversation was about how few people read pace and use that as an angle for their betting. This was in a period where I was concentrating on flat racing and enjoying working out the pace and likely angles of run styles.

Now, since then, data has exploded in the sport. It has helped me massively since I had a conversation with @Ron on here about a Southwell race, and it has rekindled my belief in understanding race pace and using data can help aid betting.

Views then folk?
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OddDog said:
Plays a more significant role in flat racing I think? You do hear it talked about MUCH MORE on the proper racing channel (Racing UK) rather than ITV and they do excellent pre- and post-race assessments. The analysis of the way Kopek Des Bordes and Salvator Mundi cut each other's throats yesterday was spot on.
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I think it does play more in flat racing, but with the jumping IQ data they are trying to push it into jumps racing more, and as you say its good when they use data and analysis to play back a race and why it happened.
 
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Ron said:
It certainly helps to come up with a more logical reasoning for a selection but there are so many other factors that are difficult to take into account. For example:
  • will the trainer be trying to win the race
  • it could all go wrong at the starting gate
  • if the horse has never raced on the surface (in public) will it perform better or worse than it has on the surface(s) on which it has raced
  • the effect on a front runner of a strong head wind
I'm sure you can think of many more Nass

One thing is for sure, it isn't easy

It was much easier when Gordon Richards was riding, especially at Chepstow <laugh>
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All part of the puzzle!!
 
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