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Daily Racing Thread Wednesday 30th. April 2025

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by attivo, Apr 29, 2025.

  1. attivo

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    Wednesday's Meetings

    Ascot
    Flat 7 Races 1:10-4:40p.m.
    Pontefract
    Flat 7 Races 1:50-5:10p.m.
    Punchestown Festival
    N/H 8 Races 2:30-6:35p.m.
    Brighton(E)
    Flat 7 Races 4:45-7:55p.m.
    Southwell(E)
    A/W 8 Races 5:05-8:40p.m.

    Racecards
    At The Races
    Sporting Life
    Racing Post


    Good Luck <ok>
     
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  2. LG

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    1.40 Ascot Sardinian Warrior 10/3
     
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    Punchestown
    14,30 Fairyland Opera 17/2 e/w sky six places, five others
    18,05 Lightkeeper 6/1 e/w WH and PP four places
     
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    1.10 Ascot-Siren Suit

    Each Way @ 10-1 [William Hill]

    To improve from debut run
     
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    3rd @ 14-1
     
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    As it is very quiet on here, can I ask a question -


    Has the proliferation of data in horse racing helped your betting?

    I ask, because I have been studying the sectionals and jumping data on At The Races, and I was fondly remembering a conversation I had with eez. The conversation was about how few people read pace and use that as an angle for their betting. This was in a period where I was concentrating on flat racing and enjoying working out the pace and likely angles of run styles.

    Now, since then, data has exploded in the sport. It has helped me massively since I had a conversation with @Ron on here about a Southwell race, and it has rekindled my belief in understanding race pace and using data can help aid betting.

    Views then folk?
     
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    eez ...................... great bloke <ok>
     
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    Copacabana in the bumper
     
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  10. OddDog

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    Well Bambino Fever confirms what a star mare she is - hugely impressive again.
     
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    Plays a more significant role in flat racing I think? You do hear it talked about MUCH MORE on the proper racing channel (Racing UK) rather than ITV and they do excellent pre- and post-race assessments. The analysis of the way Kopek Des Bordes and Salvator Mundi cut each other's throats yesterday was spot on.
     
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    GDC <applause>
     
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    Awful.
     
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  14. Ron

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    It certainly helps to come up with a more logical reasoning for a selection but there are so many other factors that are difficult to take into account. For example:
    • will the trainer be trying to win the race
    • it could all go wrong at the starting gate
    • if the horse has never raced on the surface (in public) will it perform better or worse than it has on the surface(s) on which it has raced
    • the effect on a front runner of a strong head wind
    I'm sure you can think of many more Nass

    One thing is for sure, it isn't easy

    It was much easier when Gordon Richards was riding, especially at Chepstow <laugh>
     
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    I think it does play more in flat racing, but with the jumping IQ data they are trying to push it into jumps racing more, and as you say its good when they use data and analysis to play back a race and why it happened.
     
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    All part of the puzzle!!
     
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