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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Bucky1989, Feb 6, 2025.

  1. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Answer to question 1 yes.
    Question 2
    Why on earth do you think that, must be crackers. Can’t wait to get promoted.
     
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  2. Hudson92

    Hudson92 Well-Known Member

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    Agree to disagree lads going round and round in circles this thread now
     
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  3. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    we probably all need to wait until we know what division we are in next season.... I'm as bigger culprit for this...but the reality is, we need to wait to see. I'm sure KLD KS have a file for each scenario
     
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  4. CR17

    CR17 Well-Known Member

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    You'll be surprised how fast a player can progress over the summer. I thought jobe wouldn't fit RLB's tactic he was trying because he was quite slow on the ball his first season. He absolutely leaped in quality.
     
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  5. CR17

    CR17 Well-Known Member

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    1000% agree
     
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  6. CR17

    CR17 Well-Known Member

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    I'll shut up now about it but yeah the whole wait for these players to develop a further year doesn't really hold, we know these lads have PL aspirations and some are even getting PL offers, we might not even have these players for next season if we stay down, very likely we won't imo. The pro's to being promoted are way too high to snub our noses at imo. Also, I don't think I could actively support us, watch us and care every week if I didn't even want us to go up, how do people see the point in that?
     
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  7. Yes but no but

    Yes but no but Well-Known Member

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    I’m hoping that they can get rigg to agree to another year, similar to what they done with Jobe last year. New deal, extra year with us.
     
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  8. Charley Farley

    Charley Farley Well-Known Member

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    I’ve come round to thinking we really do need to be promoted this season.
    Even though it means getting stuffed for most games in the Premier League it’s all about the money.

    What made me think that is if you look on here, loads of posters are saying we can’t compete with the teams getting parachute payments meaning the three coming down will always be favourites to go back up (Luton excepted)
    If we are relegated as expected we would be getting this parachute payment and we would have this huge advantage over the other 21 clubs not getting it.

    Combine that with our excellent Acadamy players and any sales we would be right up there, possibly favourites, to win the Championship and have a real go at staying up.
     
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  9. CR17

    CR17 Well-Known Member

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    Yep exactly this. We need to become a part of that club getting PL money as it's becoming a closed shop
     
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  10. LBW

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    Don’t think the Dreyfus Family would gear up for the premier league on and off the pitch to let the opportunity slide if we do get promotion.
    I have no doubt investment is already lined up for promotion
     
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  11. williebeams

    williebeams Well-Known Member

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    we go up, we sign le fee calibre of players and we could stay up

    Ipswich spent north 100m and le fee is better than all their signings, only delap impact wise comes close.

    We sign le fee, they signed clarke, as much as i love clarke, its just levels
     
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  12. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

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    But we most likely can't strengthen in the summer if we don't go up. We will lose all our better players and would need to be incredibly lucky to replace at the same level. Best case scenario, we're back in this exact same spot again next year.

    The fact is: we are by far the best team in the league without parachute payments. The only teams above us are those who have Premier League money.

    Folk need to understand that Premier League money gives teams a massive advantage. We are basically not competing with Leeds, Sheffield U, Burnley. They have their own competition. In terms of non-parachute payment teams we are top of the league and clear by 10 points, even after taking our foot off the gas for a few games. There will never be a better time than now for us to go up. Are people seriously expecting us to do better than 10 points clear at the top of our league next season? The odds are massively against.

    This is why going up is critical. Yes, we may lose every week, but the following year in the Champ we would be one of the teams with parachute payments, and then we can actually push on and compete in that "top 3" mini-league of teams. Without Prem money, you have to be INCREDIBLY lucky to even get close. Case in point, we have been very lucky this season with how quickly a lot of our youngsters have developed. Even with that luck, we've fallen well short of the parachute payment teams.

    We are the best team in the league without Premier League money by an absolute mile. The only way we get better than where we are right now is with Prem money.

    "Stay down and strengthen in the summer" is a myth. We don't go up this year, I'll bet anyone £10 grand right now we will be in a worse position in the league this time next year.
     
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  13. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Even on the off chance we do improve, we could win the championship with record points next season and we still won’t be ready for the PL without serious investment. People are living in dreamland thinking we just pissfart around having a laugh in the championship playing some nice football, holding onto all of our players while every other team apparently gets worse and we get better year on year so that they can walk into the PL and finish mid table. It’s a total fantasy.
     
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  14. alcoauth

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    I'm hearing we're already trying to do a deal for an international player, if it's true it would have implications for players currently at the club. Much more organised than anytime I can remember.
     
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  15. Brainy Dose

    Brainy Dose Well-Known Member

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    :1980_boogie_down:You and @Smug in Boots should organise a tease club! :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  16. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
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    About strips :angel:
     
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  17. Brainy Dose

    Brainy Dose Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> Steady Gordon,steady!
     
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  18. CR17

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    Many internationals out there <laugh>
     
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  19. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    We’ve already got £10m guaranteed coming into the club from Watson so that gives us surety of money to spend. Without that we’d be speculating as to who we might sell and how much for
     
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  20. Bucky1989

    Bucky1989 Well-Known Member

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    hearing we have 3-4 deals in waiting,
     
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