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Transfer Rumours To sack or not to sack?

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Jan 15, 2025.

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Should we sack Ange now?

Poll closed Tuesday at 4:35 PM.
  1. Yes

    45.2%
  2. No

    54.8%
  1. Citizen Kane.

    Citizen Kane. Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't say no to Iraola but his style is quite similar to Ange and is producing a similar number of injuries as you've said.

    I'd like to see how he manages four competitions as that is a huge step up imo that the vast majority of managers can't cope with. We've only had Poch manage to juggle it all, albeit Redknapp came very close.

    But last season showed that Ange can't even cope with the regular three competitions so in that sense, anyone of Iraola, Silva, Frank or Glasner would be a welcome change.
     
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  2. The Changing Man

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    He looks broken now, I almost hope that we get take a fearful beating tomorrow night and that finally prompts Levy into action. Even if that leaves Ryan Mason in charge for the rest of the season, I honestly believe that he would be more likely to set the team up to stand of chance of winning games and that would give us an outside chance in the Europa.
     
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  3. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Yeah IraolaBall with European football added to the schedule could end up really similar to Ange.

    That said, it’s almost certain Spurs won’t be in Europe next season so if he was appointed he would next season to bed in with only domestic competitions to worry about.
     
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  4. The Changing Man

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    I think that who the new manager is will depend on whether Paratici has any say in his appointment, if its the current band of brothers making the appointment one of those 4 looks likely but if the Italian is on the case then we may see someone more left field.
     
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  5. Citizen Kane.

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    As I've posted elsewhere, most reports are linking him with a job at AC Milan.

    Makes sense, him and Lange would just be too many cooks.
     
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  6. KingHotspur

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    Keep hearing that Paratici to Milan is imminent
     
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  7. PowerSpurs

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    I wrote the exact reason in the post you were replying to!
     
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  8. PowerSpurs

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    There are very few examples of managers significantly outperforming versus squad value for more than a season or two. Most of those can be attributed to good recruitment. As for underperforming, people rarely get given long enough to show up in the data although you could make a case for ten Haag
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    There's an obvious reason for this, though.
    They would have to be at a non-Big Six™ club by the parameters of the description.
    Two seasons of significantly outperforming squad value? That manager's gone.

    I'd also suggest that some have done that, but they generally do it via pragmatism.
    Sean Dyche did it at Burnley for years. It was impressive but it definitely wasn't pretty.
     
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  10. PowerSpurs

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    If you are suggesting they get a better job by outperforming then that's quite likely. But do they continue to outperform? I don't think so. Pochettino for example has done nothing special after leaving us.
     
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  11. KingHotspur

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    Innovative and different?

    In what way is he different and innovative?
     
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  12. Citizen Kane.

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    He certainly continues to find different and innovative ways to lose matches.
     
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  13. PowerSpurs

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    No-one else plays the full backs in that style. He also has a very refreshing honesty about his failings.
    But can you think of any manager that you saw early on, and identified as one of the really good ones? If so...what led you to that conclusion?
     
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  14. KingHotspur

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    His honesty doesn’t make him a good manager though, maybe a good bloke.

    There’s a reason other managers don’t play their full backs in that way, it doesn’t work.
     
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  15. KingHotspur

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    Only probably Pep but then that was obvious to anyone.

    In football it’s harder to spot a good one than a bad one.
     
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  16. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Seemingly for good reason too...
     
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  17. The Changing Man

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    And initially it worked as it took a while for other coaches to work it out, now they all have and we are easy to play against, and the risks of the system are massive. We concede so many goals particularly down our right because our RB is so frequently out of what most of us think is his position.
     
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  18. humanbeingincroydon

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    Tommy Docherty played with FBs in that style

    That would be the Tommy Docherty who Ange played under at South Melbourne, just before Ferenc Puskas showed up in fact...
     
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  19. KingHotspur

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    Tommy Docherty playing with FBs in the Aussie league decades ago doesn’t prove it’s a good reason to do it in the PL in 2025 <laugh>
     
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  20. Citizen Kane.

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    <laugh>
     
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