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Election 2024

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by brb, Jan 18, 2024.

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How are Labour doing after their first month in charge?

  1. Excellent, Keir is my hero

    47.1%
  2. Ok ish

    11.8%
  3. It's been like a month of Sucky on weed

    23.5%
  4. BobbyD for Prime Minister

    11.8%
  5. Love not Hate

    5.9%
  6. Duggie wants his Winter Fuel Allowance back

    47.1%
  7. brb is **** at polls

    23.5%
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  1. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    It has to be a tough job and she comes across as somebody who gives it 100% and actually considers the consequences of who it affects

    I just remember the days of Nigel Lawson (yes I'm that old) and people like George Osborne and remember thinking, these guys are going to go from the Chamber to the Savoy, eat Lobster and drink Champagne, snort coke with their rich buddies from the City and none of it will affect them one bit
     
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    Solid Air 2 Well-Known Member

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  3. brb

    brb CR250

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    I should say, I've got no sympathy for her though, she had other options and chose benefits, fair enough, but she now has to take the flack that comes with that. And it's not like she hasn't got people to guide her, I've heard from Corbyn (yesterday), McDonnell (today) on TV and they both gave alternative ways of doing it, but that involved the rich...sorry mate, same rules apply as applied to the Tories, bunch of ****s if you go down the route they are going. I'll accept it, like everyone else, we don't have a choice in the absence of decent opposition, but she certainly did have a choice.
     
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  4. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Yeah I agree with that 100%. She and her govt made choices and I'm still not seeing Labour going after the very wealthiest, or even chasing down the taxes the rich should be paying.

    No better than the tories on that front.
     
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    Gessa Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> you fallen head first on a rock bud
     
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  6. brb

    brb CR250

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    <laugh>
     
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  7. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    I vaguely remember that the Honda CB 250 was a very popular bike in the early 70s for that reason - til they dropped the upper limit to 125cc.
     
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  8. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I guess it's too late to edit that <laugh>
     
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  9. brb

    brb CR250

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    That's it mate, and yeah it was the Honda CB 250....good memory bro.
     
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  10. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    I think when it comes to managing the economy Reeves and Starmer are doing a middling job at the very best and at this moment in the time, it's only slightly different than the Tories. They are doing some good work in the terms of slashing the massive problem in bureaucracy, removing NHS England for example and cutting down on the extremely bloated civil service.

    But as I put out in a post last night, I don't think Labour are actually fixing the long term problems at all. A cheese slicer approach to welfare cuts will never encourage growth and Reeves has to figure that out.

    Like, we all know that the welfare state is too large, but bringing in more money that does exist in this country to the public coffers is also vital, you can also cut down on so much nonsensical convoluted red tape bollocks that stifles growth in Britain.

    Brits have been spoon fed that if you push down on companies they will just run away to greener pastures but I truly believe that is bollocks and even if it was true, there are carrots you can offer massive corps that do not mean you lose tax revenue. But as it stands, Labour aren't addressing anything substantial.

    I also don't think you can tax your way out of this problem, on that Labour are right. I really disagree with the idea that anyone in the UK should be paying more than 50% of their earnings on taxes - but all these insane VAT exemptions, like you see banks benefit from, even things like helicopter and jet sales, all exempt from VAT. Its a billionaires paradise.
     
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  11. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    That's a scare tactic used by the big corps to try and stave off corporation tax and windfall taxes, but the evidence is that none of them would up sticks and leave the UK as there is far too much money to be made here, and somebody else would immediately step into the void that they left and hoover up all of their profits.

    To the Tories credit, they called HSBC's bluff when they threatened to up sticks and leave. They said go on then, and HSBC stfu and stayed put. I think that was over the break up of big banking monopolies, but the same principal would apply if you stuck some proper wealth taxes on these banks and corporations.
     
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  12. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Corporation and windfall taxes simply add to the further list of convoluted taxes that the UK has all designed to make it easy to dodge paying anything imo.

    Like I've said about scrapping NI and employers NI, these things are just a mess and ultimately pointless, as well is dividends, purely for people to pay less tax. Slam it all together in a single income tax and let that be the end of it. Any income whatsoever is just hit with the standard rate of tax across the board. It works in so many countries.

    Have a standard rate of corporation tax, but remove all their beneficial exemptions that right now help them avoid paying anything. I'd even add a carrot and allow British based corps pay less tax than foreign corps to give homegrown ones a head up against foreign competition.

    Investment into the UK is actually quite **** to be honest, it's not what people expect at all and we need to find ways to encourage as much in as we can at the same time as making the entire tax system fairer.

    Like, if you talk about a wealth tax. Yes, increasing it by just 2% would generate like £25b, but long term that really changes nothing and it doesn't encourage growth at all, most of that £25b will be devoured by Britains debt interest and we won't see a growing economy but a continuation of our stagnant economy.

    On income tax, like I said yesterday, how betting earnings are not taxed as income is beyond belief tbh, no wonder the Bet365 owner is a multi billionaire.
     
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    As a three wheeler it was counted as a motor cycle and sidecar and therefore only needed a motor bike licence, the three wheel Morgan was a sports car but still only needed a motor bike licence, the motor bike test was the easiest those day, as long as you survived driving around a block without killing anyone you passed so you could ride a full-blown ton up motor bike and or a three wheeled car
     
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    In the early sixties the biggest bike on a provisional license was a 250cc
     
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  15. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    sadly yes…

    just tax the ones who can afford the biggest burden and also the corporations who help keep wages low.
     
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  16. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    had a go on an Aprilia back in the day when thinking about getting a bike(mid to late 90’s)

    friend had one, went up and down some country lanes. Terrified me and never thought about it ever again. So god know what a real bike would do!
     
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    Thinking back as an ageing man, it seems madness we were allowed to ride a 250cc on a provisional and at such a young age, when you have no sense of danger, or I certainly didn't. I get that latter year yearning to ride a bike again, but I'm honest enough to say I'd kill myself if i ever got on one again. Although think how much id save the state pension pot....I can hear Reeves shouting, buy one, buy one.
     
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  18. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    I have a list of stuff I can drive on the back of licence that shocked me that I’m okay to drive.
    I passed my test in a Nova or Corsa.

    But indicates I can drive a mini coach with a trailer!!
     
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  19. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Great photoshop that<laugh><applause>

    Same old **** tho innit

    No money left, difficult decisions.. the disabled can **** off, the elderly can freeze and die.
    . But some coke fiend plant put there to siphon off Europe's money, gets told to fukin do one by the USA, hops straight on a plane to our WEF puppet pm who hands him whatever he wants whenever he wants.

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  20. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Youre on some next planet sometimes man<laugh>


    Last two posts you've said Rachel reeves really cares and gives 100%.

    You on the fukin wum or the payroll or wha.? <laugh>
     
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