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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Puck

    Puck Well-Known Member

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    That's clearly not the same type of analysis. It's looking at claims per family rather than claims per x number of population and is also looking at ethnicity rather than nationality.

    You'd also need to look at what each of the studies meant by "benefits". When most people talk about benefits they're often not talking about things like the state pension or child benefit, which that study does consider benefits and which are the most widely received.
     
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    Well then, isn't the whole thing flawed without a concrete set of allowable variables?

    There are lies, damned lies and then there are statistics.
     
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    I know they keep saying that they want Greenland for security reasons but are there any minerals or fossil fuels buried in the ground there that they want to get their greedy little hands on?
     
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    Yes, Greenland is rich in "rare earths" that Trump likes to go on about. But getting them would destroy much of the natural environment, so people locally are mainly against mining.
     
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    I'm getting quite annoyed at this phrase "suicidal empathy". Empathy is the one redeeming feature that raises us up above the animals. Intellect can make us cruel and self-serving, but empathy is that one thing that helps us understand our actions have consequences. It is one selfless motivation mankind has. The opposite of empathy is indifference. When we are indifferent to the suffering of the few, what is the point in society in the first place? Where has it led when we have allowed indifference to overpower empathy?

    Holocaust.
     
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    Ah.
    Oddly enough I have just read a novel that claimed that there were gas and oil fields under the ice, but in the novel they also discovered a buried but still active volcano that was being prevented from eruption by the pressure of the ground and ice above it.
    True to “baddy” form someone wanted to risk drilling down and risking an eruption that would cause a tsunami of colossal proportions because the gain was worth wiping out millions of people in an over populated world.
    Sounds like it could have been based on the Trumpster and Muskrat.
     
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    This is nonsense. You’d have to be completely innumerate to even try to read anything into those figures, given the way they’re presented. Forget the veracity of the source material, this is statistical gibberish only a simpleton would take seriously.
     
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    He used exactly the same kind of statistical gibberish to prove that most rapes were committed by immigrants. Except they aren’t.

    Mr Statistical Gibberish is at it again.
     
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    I don’t mind evidence but evidence must be clear and efforts to remove bias in assembling the data have to be taken.
     
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    I imagine that chart is part of a larger document where all this is explained. You're right that posting it by itself does make it difficult to interpret.
     
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    Looking at their website, that doesn't seem to be their MO. I spent a few minutes trying to dig and once I'd found out the size of the congolese population and why they arrived here, I didn't bother any more. It seemed like an attempt to skew some statistics. It may be true per 1000, but it's not representative.
     
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    What do people make of the US deporting 238 Venezuelans to an El Salvador prison without trial or any kind of due process? I feel like this is what some people want for our immigrants. I am grateful we still have some of that suicidal empathy, I guess!
     
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    A story about sewage being pumped straight into streams/rivers, NOT because of the water companies but as a result of blocks of flats having their waste pipes plumbed into the rainwater pipes and not the sewage pipes, when under construction.
    Who is responsible is briefly talked about in the short video.

     
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    upload_2025-3-24_18-34-7.jpeg

    Imagine someone in government posting this in the UK. Musk posted this this morning.
     
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    Oops a journalist was included in top secret messaging.

     
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    Yep just like Trump and his cronies
     
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    Have you seen what was in that chat? ****ing hell.
     
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    Yep, texting war plans to The Atlantic editor.

    They’re great, aren’t they?

    Imagine this was the other ‘side’ that had done this…
     
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    Not only that but they are slagging off Europe and trying to work out how to get cash out of us while they are at it.
     
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