Off Topic Politics Thread

I used to think he was an AI bot, but then realised an AI bot has more intelligence.



(Not an insult before you go bleating, an observation...)

 

Out of curiosity, what do you factor in to government expenditure that actually makes money?

 

You know what the funny thing is that politically, I am at odds with most on this board. I do get told that I am a leftie though which really makes me laugh as I really am not. It is only the fact that i am so much further in from the right than Os that I appear a leftie to him, but the rest of you would probably call me a raving tory.

 

Tory scum!

 

The difference is you are capable of adult discussion, without needing to cosplay at being clever.

 

Am I?


Willy, willy, willly.

 

Us tories need to stick together!

 

Can I say Ken Clarke was one of my favourite politicians

 

You sound like Elon Musk now….

 

I got into an argument with some leftists online today. Never seen anyone who whataboutismed me so much. If I keep arguing with them I might have to become a Tory.

 

I have to unload. I am off sick today so find myself online too much.

Someone mentioned the 2019 Labour Manifesto, which I loved. I made the comment I loved the manifesto, just a shame Corbyn was unelectable.

The torrent of abuse I got! I said only because the papers were against him! More abuse! I apologised and said fine he is electable. I got told I am a pawn in the MSM.

Both sides have these lunatics.

 

Quite often these lunatics are the same person/bot

 

Wound me right up! Anyway, the point is I don’t think left or right are bad, but internet echo chambers definitely are and so is any kind of extremism.

 

I don’t know if this short video with Musk has been doctored but….

https://youtube.com/shorts/NKW_qbwX9oc?si=HOF3Qd4OPSVagdB7

 

I must be missing something here. If you take the emotion out of the argument, then surely what Os is saying is true?

I don't pretend to have any in depth knowledge of fiscal affairs but to me he's saying that government income made up of taxes has to be paid out as they see fit.
Everything that has to be paid for is an outgoing cost and that includes NHS, defence, education, firemen, police, welfare and so on. Non of those organisations produce an income to the government (or very little). We all know their worth to the country but that is not the point. It's about income V outgoings.
Tell me, what is there to argue about there?

 

Yes, we all know it's a fact of life that the public sector doesn't create a profit itself but it is essential for businesses to function and contribute to the overall economy, the issue is what is Os trying to say? scrap it?

 

For me it is this false sense that public sector doesn’t contribute. Public sector workers pay tax so they are indeed contributing to the state. They also do essential work and contribute that way. The state is as reliant on the public sector as the public sector is on the state.

 

Plenty of guidance available, no use at all if nobody heeds it.

 

The only good tory is history.