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    Can someone who understands the stock market tell me whether Trump just crashed the dollar?
     
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    Ffs Trump has just said he is moving chip making to the USA in case something happens to Taiwan’. Goodbye Taiwan.
     
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    This is pretty sensible to be fair. GB should 100% be investing in the same.

    In some perverse way I'm glad Trump is all about showing his arse. For far too long we've totally relied on being part of a gang (be that the EU/Nato) When in fact we should be far more savvy and realise that everything we've done for others means absolutely **** all when crunch time comes. We seriously need to learn to sort out our manufacturing capabilities
     
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    Former President of Poland Lech Walesa wrote the following letter to Trump.
    Your Excellency, Mr. President,
    We watched the report of your conversation with the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, with fear and distaste. We find it insulting that you expect Ukraine to show respect and gratitude for the material assistance provided by the United States in its fight against russia. Gratitude is owed to the heroic Ukrainian soldiers who shed their blood in defense of the values of the free world. They have been dying on the front lines for more than 11 years in the name of these values and the independence of their homeland, which was attacked by Putin’s russia.
    We do not understand how the leader of a country that symbolizes the free world cannot recognize this.
    Our alarm was also heightened by the atmosphere in the Oval Office during this conversation, which reminded us of the interrogations we endured at the hands of the Security Services and the debates in Communist courts. Prosecutors and judges, acting on behalf of the all-powerful communist political police, would explain to us that they held all the power while we held none. They demanded that we cease our activities, arguing that thousands of innocent people suffered because of us. They stripped us of our freedoms and civil rights because we refused to cooperate with the government or express gratitude for our oppression. We are shocked that President Volodymyr Zelensky was treated in the same manner.
    The history of the 20th century shows that whenever the United States sought to distance itself from democratic values and its European allies, it ultimately became a threat to itself. President Woodrow Wilson understood this when he decided in 1917 that the United States must join World War I. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt understood this when, after the attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941, he resolved that the war to defend America must be fought not only in the Pacific but also in Europe, in alliance with the nations under attack by the Third Reich.
    We remember that without President Ronald Reagan and America’s financial commitment, the collapse of the Soviet empire would not have been possible. President Reagan recognized that millions of enslaved people suffered in Soviet russia and the countries it had subjugated, including thousands of political prisoners who paid for their defense of democratic values with their freedom. His greatness lay, among other things, in his unwavering decision to call the USSR an “Empire of Evil” and to fight it decisively. We won, and today, the statue of President Ronald Reagan stands in Warsaw, facing the U.S. Embassy.
    Mr. President, material aid—military and financial—can never be equated with the blood shed in the name of Ukraine’s independence and the freedom of Europe and the entire free world. Human life is priceless; its value cannot be measured in money. Gratitude is due to those who sacrifice their blood and their freedom. This is self-evident to us, the people of Solidarity, former political prisoners of the communist regime under Soviet russia.
    We call on the United States to uphold the guarantees made alongside Great Britain in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, which established a direct obligation to defend Ukraine’s territorial integrity in exchange for its relinquishment of nuclear weapons. These guarantees are unconditional—there is no mention of treating such assistance as an economic transaction.
    Signed,
    Lech Wałęsa, former political prisoner, President of Poland
     
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    If he had said ‘We want to make our own chips’, fine. But USA protects Taiwan. Is he really giving up on every little guy?
     
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    I really like Grok. Musk can have that one. On Twitter I found a load of Americans talking about the failed immigration experiment and you can’t walk on the street without getting run over by a muslim, so I got Grok to compare deaths by school shootings in the US with deaths by terrorists in cars in Germany.

    18 kids killed US
    6 Germans killed


    Now, if your rage is real, and you want to ban immigrants (you can see where this is going) for causing death… you gotta ban guns too, right?
     
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    But, but, Americans have a constitutional right to bear arms (against the English King), and no amount of political correctness is going to take away every Americans inalienable right to shoot people. Or something.
     
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    It shows that the outrage is racist and not real. It is the ‘islamification’ of Europe they hate and not violence. If they genuinely hated violence they would stop the thousands of gun deaths every year.
     
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    Like most liberals you are missing the reason why guns are so important.

    They are the last defence against a tyrannical government.
     
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    SpaceX just doing another test of Starship by the way… I advise everyone to tune in as it’s ridiculously interesting.

    Getting ahead of all the negative nancys, they expect it to blow up, they’ve removed a lot of the heat shield and they’re testing how it handles the heat of re-entry with strategic parts removed. (I know you’ll try have a pop at Elon if it blows up)

    Another successful elon musk company.. just saying
     
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    You’re simply hilarious.
     
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    I am glad you are such a big fan :)
     
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    Trump orders military aid ans weapons Ukraine to stop immediately.

    Wow. Guess zelensky shouldn’t have called the vice president a bitch in the Oval Office…
     
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    He didn’t. What he said was the Ukrainian equivalent of ****ing hell. It does have the word bitch in it. But you would know this if you left your thought bubble.
    And Vance is not a bitch. He is a ****.
     
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    Also, is it me or is Mr Surrender to Russia to save lives rejoicing in the deaths this infantile decision of Trump’s will bring?
     
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    I remember being told I was ridiculous to say Trump was a threat to our security.

    Good times.
     
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    In that case, I am surprised you haven't tooled up against Starmer.

    I bet you haven't even left your bedroom.
     
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    Sadly our politicians only care about Ukraine’s borders and citizens, they don’t care about our own
     
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