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WAR! What is it good for?

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  1. brb

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    I could probably write a book, but it wouldn't be on politics. Mine would be more on male health and hospital, consultant, doctor, surgery experiences. The sort of stuff I actually don't discuss on here. So the complete opposite to my online persona of world politics. Although some of it would come under the political scope, generally it's not about that...more from a personal point of view.
     
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  2. Star of David Bardsley

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    I’ll probably read a few reviews before buying.
     
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  3. Skylarker

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    What you waiting for... that sounds so amazing :emoticon-0147-emo:
     
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  4. brb

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    I don't have the concentration to write a book anyway.
     
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  5. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    Start with a pamphlet and work your way up.
     
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  6. PINKIE

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    I probably won't do either
     
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    I’ll let you know how the reviews are. No point us both reading them.
     
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  8. brb

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    I'll write how amazing bubble gum ice cream is through the pain.
     
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  9. PINKIE

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    If you find out where to get some, I'll send that little lad your way <laugh>
     
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  10. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    <laugh>
     
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  11. Citizen Kane.

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    I'm not at all surprised with your reading of the situation.

    Nor I am sure will you be surprised that I read it from the opposite angle.

    This is a very simple equation.

    Phase Two requires Israel to withdraw from key strategic positions in the strip.

    On signing Phase One, Israel made it clear that it would only consider doing this if it received assurances that Hamas would not fill the subsequent vacuum.

    The deadline to receive these reassurances is in six days.

    Phase One has been operative for six weeks.

    The onus is absolutely not on Israel to provide reassurances to itself. That is absolutely absurd. The USA, EU and Arab states have had six weeks to come up with a working solution, even something as simple as an international peacekeeping coalition, but have failed to do so and have also failed to convince Hamas that it must be done.

    That failure is not Israel's problem.

    There are now two options and two options only if this can't be resolved by March 8th:
    1) Resume hostilities
    2) Extend Phase One

    All other alternatives are to Israel's disadvantage.

    Israel is offering to extend Phase One. Hamas obviously doesn't want to agree to this because it prevents them from regrouping and rearming.

    The alternative is to resume hostilities.

    In what way is that option better?
     
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  12. PINKIE

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    Disagree

    Hamas hasn't agreed to the extension at the moment, UNTIL there are guarantees that phase two will take place.

    I've no doubt that people have dragged their heels on this

    It needs to be sorted asap

    Israel withdrawing all humanitarian aid is born from the mind of psychopaths.
     
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  13. Sucky

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    I want a far right racism one.
     
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  14. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    please log in to view this image
     
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    Hamas said in a Sunday statement that "Netanyahu's decision to stop humanitarian aid is cheap blackmail, a war crime and a blatant coup against the agreement."

    "We reaffirm our commitment to implementing the signed agreement in its three stages and we have repeatedly announced our readiness to begin negotiations for the second stage of the agreement," the group added, calling on the U.S. "to stop its bias and alignment" with Israel.

    "We call on the mediators to pressure the occupation to implement its obligations under the agreement, in all its stages, and to implement the humanitarian protocol, and to bring in shelters and rescue equipment to the Gaza Strip," Hamas added.

    The statement said that "the only way" to secure the return of Israeli hostages is to adhere to the ceasefire and "immediately enter into negotiations to begin the second stage."
     
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    An Israeli source told ABC News that "the Israeli decision to halt aid into Gaza was coordinated with the Trump administration."

    Well there's a ****in surprise. What was that I was saying about it being orchestrated by psychopaths......
     
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  17. Sucky

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    You should go to Gaza mate via Ukraine.
    Bring some dosh with ya tho Ukraine is really really really expensive these dsys<laugh>
     
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  18. PINKIE

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    Yeah okay bro

    I'll bring ya back a Zelensky T shirt.
     
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  19. Citizen Kane.

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    I refer you to Section 6 of Security Council Resolution 2735 (i.e. the one that brought the ceasefire into existence in the first place).

    That's the clause Hamas didn't and will never accept in earnest.

    It's really very simple. As soon as Hamas agrees to Clause 6, Israel has the basic assurances it needs and Phase Two can get underway.

    If Hamas doesn't want to agree to Clause 6, first and foremost it shouldn't have signed the thing in the first place, but at the very least it needs to accept a viable alternative such as an international peacekeeping coalition.

    But it doesn't want that either. It wants to regroup and rearm and Phase One prevents that from happening because crucially Israel currently maintains control of the Philadelphi Corridor.

    There is no version of reality where Hamas can be allowed autonomy in Gaza. I say this for the sake of the Palestinians as much as I do for Israel. I had assumed we were in agreement on this based on historic posts from yourself, but apparently not.

    Hamas are apparently a fine upstanding organisation, it's America and Israel who are the psychopaths.
     
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  20. Sucky

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    I hear they cost like 3bn now

    And that's just the 1st year

    You have to pay every year after that for the next 100.
     
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