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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by LincolnSaint, Nov 11, 2024.

  1. SteveO 74

    SteveO 74 Well-Known Member

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    Quoted this on the match day chat but more appropriate here, and the reason I now feel that SR need to front up to the fans or take their bars and bands with them.

    Since sacking RH, SR have had 5 managers whilst in the premier league.

    The most wins belongs to Ruben Selles on a massive 2 victories during his tenure.
     
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  2. LincolnSaint

    LincolnSaint Well-Known Member

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    It's slowly turning. Granted Twitter isn't the greatest yard stick but more and more fans are seeing these ****ing idiots for what they are.

    When we're 3 down against Wolves hopefully we'll finally see the crowd turn. If they can tear themselves away from the queue for the churros.
     
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  3. Toss saints

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    I feel you pain man. Problem is SR own the club. They can do what they like, it is Dragan's money. We can pbitch and moan, but doubt it will have much impact. When we bitch and moan about a manager, eventually the board will buckle, but they ain't going to sack themselves when they are the owner until the price is right
     
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  4. LincolnSaint

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    There's not even any comms to the fans from the ****s. Why, when it's clear to the fans they accepted relegation in December, have they not come out and told us what the plan is? They're treating us like ****ing mugs. Wait till the parachute payments stop and they need the gate receipts. ****s.
     
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  5. LincolnSaint

    LincolnSaint Well-Known Member

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    True, his train set he gets to decide how to play with it. Ultimately though, fan protests might encourage him/them to **** off sooner.

    They have totally and utterly ****ed us
     
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  6. Deserana

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    Why bother complaining because it’ll make little difference? Are we supposed to just sit down and stay quiet and wait until they piss off? The correct form of protest will make a difference and will have an effect.
     
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  7. Le Tissier's Laces

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    But we'd be protesting against someone and something that hasn't actually had a chance to get going yet. Yes, they've been **** to this point. Awful. But they've appointed Spors, and there has to be an element of giving this guy an opportunity to show his mettle. Now if he's **** as well, that's not great, granted. But any protest will largely (and in my opinion rightly) fall on deaf ears, because they'll think that Spors needs the chance to turn things around.

    Thing is, fans being fans, if we move quickly in the summer, appoint Rohl, bring in a couple of decent looking signings, we'll all get excited for the season. Add a couple of convincing early wins to that mix, and all this will be dust in the distance.
     
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  8. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    I’ll probably get pelters for this, but if you look at it sensibly, they’ve only really got one thing wrong in their ownership. The rest of it they’ve done a good job on. Now it just so happens that that one thing is the most important thing, the recruitment of managers and players.

    Now they’ve brought someone in who has a history of being good at the stuff we’ve been terrible at. But we’re not going to know if he’s the right piece of that jigsaw until the summer. But if they’ve fixed that part, we actually have good owners.
     
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  9. Deserana

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    II agree with giving them a chance but for this summer only. And there needs to be immediate action this summer. If we’re a week before the Championship starting and it’s business as usual where we’re dragging or arse and there’s no noise about transfers then I think there’s every right for priests to begin.

    However if by the time the Championship starts we still have Rohl and decent sized squad change up then they’ve bought themselves till the winter.
     
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  10. Osvaldorama

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    <laugh><laugh> Are you effectively saying they’re good at everything except running a football club?

    Problem is, it’s very difficult to support a bar. What do we sing about? Having the best tables?
     
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  11. Lemons and Oranges

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    "I think there’s every right for priests to begin." @Deserana , I think you may have stumbled onto something - let's have an exorcism, bring in Shamans, sprinkle holy water, perform a few(OK, several) sacrifices. It probably won't help, but it would be better than a half-time relay, or crossbar challenge.
     
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  12. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Well, no. They've made us financially stable, they've improved the commercial side exponentially, and if they go ahead with the land purchase that side will be helped yet again - that's all stuff that under the PSR rules/2026 rules will enable us to spend more on the football side. So that part is critical, if seemingly dull.

    The football side they've been utterly hopeless on, to this point. You won't find anyone disagreeing with that (including Solak).
     
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    The sacrifices queue around the ground will be a very short one. Maybe need to offer a free ST.
     
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  14. SteveO 74

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    IMHO they have to act now and start thinking about next season, and try to build up some kind of positivity both for the club as a whole and for the fan base.
    With the way things have gone there will be zero positivity going into what will be a tough season in the championship with Juric in charge.
    I for one, would be happy for them to get rid of Juric, put Rusk in charge for the remainder of the season, and tell the fans that the planning for next season including a new manager is now under way and planning with the new Football Director.
    They need to act and make a statement soon, as the longer this drags on they will start losing the fans 100%, and season ticket sales.
    My plan along with my sons, is to wait to see what happens before we renew next season, but if it remains the same, I won’t be wasting my money.
    If they stay with Juric I just don’t see any players in this current squad being suitable for him, and as much as I wouldn’t cry to see any of them leave, it’s unrealistic to sell 10-15 first team squad players in a summer. Big Decisions SR.
    I think many fans have had enough of them now including me, but mess things up one more time this summer I think they will lose a lot more.
     
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  15. Billy Bates

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    **** me mate, if does a lot of lifting here, doesn’t it.

    But as said before we do need to give it a chance. But SR for me are in last chance saloon.
     
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  16. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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    I'm sorry, but protesting because in three seasons you had two really bad ones and one good one? That's a bit of a nonsense protest, for me

    Protests are reserved for when clubs are being acted against maliciously by their owners, are being neglected by absent owners or are heading towards financial oblivion. Losing too many games in one season isn't ever going to be a reason to get me protesting against an ownership

    If people protested every time their team lost too many games or conceded too many goals, there'd be endless protests up and down the country at a huge number of clubs every season

    Expression of anger/frustration towards the owners for several mistakes in the football dept? Sure, I'm totally with people on that. But I see an owner who cares, who is getting things right in other areas of the business and desperately needs to fix the football operation (and is trying to do so). Have to wait and see what Spors does now he's been entrusted with that responsibility. The club is just crying out for a football operations exec who is prepared to knuckle down for a few years and provide some stability and direction
     
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  17. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah I largely agree with this but they have to get it right next season for me. It'll be hard to have faith in the ownership should the football side continue to be managed poorly.

    Ultimately nobody cares about the non football stuff if we're doing poorly on the pitch.
     
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  18. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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    Yeah, I do agree with that. Three bad seasons out of four would mean they've made at least one more huge wrong decision (probably two, or three) on the football side and then you're fairly into the realm of 'cut loose and let someone else have a go'

    First season was a combination of horrible luck and naivety. Second season was good fun for the most part. Third season has been a disaster but I do think people underestimate just how hard it is and how hard it will continue to be for promoted sides under the current PL rules and regulations
     
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  19. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    The fact all 3 promoted sides will be going down for the second year in a row says a lot. I'd only give Leeds a chance of bucking that trend too.
     
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  20. Saints_Alive

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    The long term plan has to be becoming an established PL club and they will only manage that with vastly improved recruitment as we all acknowledge and learning from their mistakes. I still think that the owner has all the best intentions for the club and we could be a lot worse off. We are finacially stable and I believe that we can compete with the likes of Bournemouth, Brighton and Fulham even if may take a bit of time to get there.
    Solak has stated that it is a long term project and i'm willing to wait and see how the next few years go with him at the helm. He is not a football man so he has to trust his staff to get that side of the business right.
     
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