Off Topic What is a woke thing?

That's how it seems to feel for many. I'm not sure where it comes from though. What has shaped your thoughts around that?

 

Macedonian Greeks were, and are, white by even modern standards.

 

Given it's American origins going back decades: Woke means

1. not calling black people ******s
2. equal rights and, more generally
3. treating people with respect

 

Some of those are the most ridiculous things I have seen, especially the Wayne and Brando ones. Surprised to see in a recent documentary a reenactment of William The Conqueror strolling along a beach with a black right hand man. They missed that off the Bayeux Tapestry. Maybe they should bring in someone to bring it up to date as it is hideously white?

 

Don’t bring facts into it.

 

My lived experience
Was listening to the Winston Marshall podcast earlier this week (along with several others). Very interesting episode with Katharine Birbalsingh about education. A voice of reason even though I don't actually agree with some of the views she holds, but I shake my head in disbelief repeatedly when I've GFAW with my earbuds in listening to yet more insight into some of the madness that's going on. I hear similar madness time and time again from a wide variety of sources and platforms. You'd surely have to be oblivious to reality (ignorance is not really bliss) not to see and hear similar.

 

Better tell Orange. He pulled me up on a mistake due to predictive texting.

If you had pressed a wrong key and that letter had appeared it would have been a typo. But you missed a letter out so it was a spelling mistake.

 

With what you're suggesting there's not a lot of room for nuance, so if it's a lived experience I'd be curious to know in what way it has been lived?
I don't hear anyone suggest those things, except for my Dad, and he gets almost all of his information from the Daily Mail. I can only assume that it's fear-mongering from echo chambers on the right, as the amount of substance appears to be miniscule.

 

I know someone who gets his information. Rubbish from echo chambers on the left.

 

What outlandish comments have I made that you would like to query? Fire away.

The vast majority of my political news comes from a podcast that sits just left of centre. They regularly interview Tory MP's. I enjoy the balance.

 

I've read a few people claiming these issues are about respect, but they tend to take a very narrow view of which opinions should be respected.

As a couple of examples, if someone wants to delude themselves they are some other gender or creature, that's their choice, however, whilst I wouldn't try to change them or even pass comment unless they raise it, my choice is to find it ridiculous. That being the case, they should respect my opinion, and not force me to join in their fantasy games by calling him her etc.

Likewise, religious people can worship whatever sky pixie they like, until they push their beliefs onto others. I can't commit blasphemy if I find their belief system to be based on a provable fantasy.

I think the people that claim none of these things are happening should consider why people feel the need to soap box in support of what others laugh at as 'woke' for the want of a description.

Some people just seem to love labels and binary thinking.

 

I said, I know someone who gets his opinions from reading the Guardian like your dad does from reading the Mail (a rather condescending and patronising comment about your dad and others BTW). Never mentioned you, stop being paranoid.

 

The Black and White Minstrels were very popular. As was till Death Us do Part, Love Thy Neighbour and Rising Damp.

 

Lived experience is right up there with my truth.

 

How do you know The Guardian is left wing rubbish? Read it often? How have you verified that’s exactly where his opinions come from?

 

Well not really. Someone may consider their truth to be them identifying as a beanie baby. That in no way correlates with anyone's experience of reality.

 

Some people just seem to love labels and binary thinking.[/QUOTE]

Apart from those non-binary types

 

Unlike some who like to live in an echo chamber I read a number of different websites.
Must be a lot avid Mail readers on here then, as they are always saying what it is.
The Guardian may sell a very small numbers of newspapers but its website and the Mail’s are the two most widely read.

Have you verified where anyone’s opinion’s come from when disagreeing with them?

 

Agree with you there. It was as unfunny as Mrs Brown’s Boys.Though TDUDP and Rising Damp were taking a dig at people with those attitudes.