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Official: Ivan Jurić named new manager

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Le Tissier's Laces, Dec 15, 2024.

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Who Would You Like Next?

Poll closed Dec 23, 2024.
  1. Rafa Benitez

    9.1%
  2. Danny Rohl

    54.5%
  3. Sergio Conceiçäo

    3.4%
  4. Mark Robins

    2.3%
  5. Carlos Corberan

    5.7%
  6. Kjetil Knutsen

    1.1%
  7. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Vasco Matos

    3.4%
  9. Lallana until end of season

    6.8%
  10. A.N.Other

    13.6%
  1. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    I just find that my time off work is precious.

    Going to St Mary's 'costs' me 7 hours of my Saturday minimum in travel etc. Not worth it to me now.

    EDIT: had a season ticket since 1979
     
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  2. NNSaint

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    Apart from the ones playing!
     
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  3. Bill Hill

    Bill Hill Well-Known Member

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    Prefaced by this being the worst set of players i have ever seen at this level I cannot begin to fathom what Juric is hoping to achieve.

    I hate the 3 CBs approach in general. You've lost the midfield battle before the game has begun unless you have 2 really good ones in there. Add into that mix a man marking approach that is pulling us all over the place and it's the freedom of the park for the opposition.

    Then we have the constant long ball up to Archer and Kamaldeen which is laughable, giving the ball straight back to the opposition almost every time.

    We have had 2 successive managers playing ridiculous tactics with such limited players.

    A competent manager playing pragmatic tactics along with a 442 or 4231 could at least make us watchable and competitive although we would still ultimately go down with this lot. Absolute garbage.
     
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  4. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Yep. Agreed. 4-2-3-1 is so obvious for this team.
     
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  5. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    But is it brave.
     
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    ......loading...... 25 undefeated

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    Let’s get this team fit. JWP levels of fit. Nothing else matters this season.
     
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  7. NNSaint

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    It'd be fun.
     
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  8. Shepherd's Clearing

    Shepherd's Clearing Well-Known Member

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    Yup in the early days especially, there were some genuine hooligans playing the game, it's not so bad now, but then again I don't go to ice hockey much nowadays either.

    I just realised, I'm just a boring old fart.

    Damn.
     
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  9. LincolnSaint

    LincolnSaint Well-Known Member

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    Can one of you football geeks (you know who you are, you talk about XG, "false 9s" and all that bollocks) please explain to me, with diagrams if necessary, what the actual **** this is about?

    Is this just modern football?
    Is this happening at every club?

    Why the **** is every single manager acting like they're the love child of ****ing Clough and Fergie thinking their way is the only way? That they're that ****ing amazing and they're reinventing football?

    I always perhaps naively believed a managers job was to win games. To take the players they have and set them up in a way to win. Setting the formation up to play to strengths and mitigate weaknesses. Now it seems managers are setting teams up with how they'd play it if they had a blank cheque and could get their dream squad in.

    What the **** is going on? Is every Saints manager using the club as an audition for bigger things? A "this is how I'd play if I had good players"?

    Why don't they change when it's not working? This is ****ing mental
     
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  10. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Not a geek, but ...

    I think it's good that a Manager has a way he wants to play and aims to set the team up that way, with players that can do that
    However, when he arrives, he's not going to have those players, so he needs a 'Transition plan' and that must be to build the team that will do that
    When you're a team of our stature that is going to take time as we don't have big purchasing power and will need to shift players that don't fit the style
    You're also going to lose players you want to keep

    I think this has got more difficult since our return to the EPL in 2011 as the balance of financial power has shifted even more towards the big clubs and FFP constrains clubs like us more than it does the big guys

    However, Bomo & Brighton have achieved this at the moment, but aren't they just going to lose their best players and eventually fail to replace them with similar quality

    Does this just mean that most of us are just here to make up the numbers and occasionally get lucky for a season or two?

    ( I wasn't expecting to end like this when I started o_O )
     
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  11. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    BTW I thought the bold bit was LOL funny <laugh>
     
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  12. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    You know who doesn’t do that?

    Arne Slot.

    Wonder how his team are getting on…
     
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  13. SaintMarv

    SaintMarv Well-Known Member

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    I have heard on good authority that the real reason that he fell out with Downes was because he was invited round for dinner.
     
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  14. Brinkworth Saint

    Brinkworth Saint Well-Known Member

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    Always been thus. The PL is 3 in 1 league wise. Top 6, middle 8, bottom 6.
     
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  15. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    We're not even good enough for bottom 6
     
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    garysfc Well-Known Member

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    Yeah especially when you consider our last 3 proper appointments; Jones, Martin & Juric, ****ing nuts. SR have to take an enormous amount of blame here. The first 2 definitely played exactly as their “tin” said & if I’m not mistaken, so has/is Juric. With that in mind & as some will point out, the people who appointed that gang, have been moved “around” but you’d think they would have been hung, drawn & quartered? Jeez, we’re putting a lot on Spors.
     
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  17. Puck

    Puck Well-Known Member

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    In fairness we've already seen that someone in that role can help. Russell Martin was a Jason Wilcox appointment and did okay in the Championship. I don't even think Wilcox has that good a record as Technical/Sporting Director but it's hard to know what would have happened if he'd stuck around. Would he have pushed for different signings last summer? Pressured Martin to alter his style of play in a tougher league? We'll never know.
     
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  18. Brinkworth Saint

    Brinkworth Saint Well-Known Member

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    Well we’re holding them all up and have been all season.
     
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