Off Topic Bristol City Talk.

But there are no circumstances that conditions can be in the contract to allow a recall outside of the winter transfer window and for the player to play for his home club

 

here you go RAVER, A SUMMARY OF LOAN DEALS in the simplest forms

Soccer clubs can temporarily transfer a player to another club for a contractually stipulated length of time, usually from the point of the loan's confirmation to the end of the season. Once the loan expires, the player will return to the parent club, except in certain circumstances.

Throughout the course of the loan, the player's contract with their initial club, known traditionally as the "parent club," remains active, but the new temporary club assumes the registration rights of the player for the agreed-upon time. Essentially, the player moves to play for the new club temporarily, and then returns to their original club after the predetermined time is up.

Depending on the specifics of each individual loan deal, a loaned player may be paid in full by the parent club, in full by the loan club, or see their wages split between the two. Sometimes, if the player is a big enough name, there may be a loan fee that the acquiring club must pay the parent club. This is almost always a far smaller sum of money than a full transfer fee.

Most loans are structured to last until the end of the current season and are usually agreed in the preseason transfer window — in which case, the player is loaned out for all of the season to come — or during the mid-season transfer period, which means a player will spend five to six months away from their parent club.

Some loans will specify how regularly the player will see the field, while others are less specific in how the loan club will use the individual player.

If a player is loaned to a club in the same country or league as their parent club, there are instances where that player may be faced with the possibility of lining up against their employers. The contract stipulates if this is allowed or not.

A loaned player may have their loan cancelled early, but this is rare and often involves one or both parties coming to an agreement to do so.
There are two circumstances where this is most common. First, the parent club experiences some sort of imminent need, such as an injury crisis, which leaves them few options at the player's position. In this situation, some loans have a break clause that the parent club can activate to return the player. Usually, this comes with some form of compensation to the loan club, usually a monetary fee.

A second situation that could see a loan cancelled occurs when the player, through either injury or poor performance, has not earned the on-field minutes that would have made his loan purposeful. Thus, the two clubs could come to a termination agreement by which the player would return to his parent club, either to train in a more familiar environment or sort out a new loan where he could earn more playing time.

In this situation, it is often mutually beneficial for both clubs (and the player) to see the loan cancelled, and thus there is usually little or no compensation required in either direction to complete such a termination. This can either be done by mutual agreement, or the parent club may trigger a clause in the loan deal if there is one.

 

Watching Brighton v Chelsea and probably seen the goal of the season.
Anyway Jamie Carragher talking about the Chelsea keeper after another mistake and bad pass out said ' doesn't matter whichever league you play in you won't win anything without a top goalkeeper'.

Max O'leary anyone ?

 

I know we disagree RR. But I honestly don’t think he’s as bad as you make out.. Everyone makes mistakes, even in the top flight.. I’d say, he’s just about our level..

 

I haven’t read it yet but what a load of tosh

 

Yes a loan can be cancelled by agreement between the two clubs through the player suffering a long term injury for example and they can return to the parent club, but they cannot appear for the first team.

 

well dont cast stones if you havent read it .. the laugh emoji shows weakness in the comment!

 

I played Sunday League for 3 seasons and lucky to play with a keeper who walked out on City aged 17, as he 'wasn't cleaning anyone's boots'. We tried to get him to sign Western League, he wouldn't as 'I'm not training twice a week'.
His attitude was obviously not the best but the best keeper I've ever seen who never play professional football.
1For, I can tell you mate having a brilliant keeper makes one hell of a difference....he kept us in so many games that we eventually drew or won. He was that much better than the rest of us put together.
As I said he kept us in games and more importantly broke 'their' spirit.
That's why I agree with Carragher, a top keeper in any league, is essential for a successful team.

As for Max, I think he's 'ordinary' and sorry to say matches City's ambition.

 

Why not …. You do

 

If I havent read it would say so and vice versa!??

 

Tinnion interview?

 

1For, without labouring Carragher's point.......the last time we had a top keeper was Basso......and we almost went up automatic.

 

Basso is a legend. One of my favourite all time City players.
The only reason he didn’t play to the highest level imho is because of his stature (which he couldn’t help of course).
By goalkeeping standards he was short. He would have struggled in the Prem.

 

still havent read it ..............

 

That looks about right, certainly can’t see us being any higher, possibly a couple of places lower imo

 

I think 8-10 place will be about right. More progression, albeit slight, but the margins at the top of the Championship are tight. Personally, just glad to leave the 14-18th place finishes behind us.

 

The problem with Bristol City is that just when you think we are making progression, which is rare in itself, we go and shoot ourselves in the foot or something even worse. The comment about keeping O'Leary as our number one goalkeeper shows where our ambitions really lie but I think this constant lack of real progress is coming down from the top. Running a company with a boss who is a control freak to say the least can still be successful but with us it generally fails the nose test and it is so frustrating knowing we can be a whole lot better than this regular tripe. Average is O.K. in some things but anything over that seems to disappear from our view so much quicker than most others. The stupid thing about all this concern about Bristol City is that we still have a good shot at a play-off spot but I hope nobody at the club is wringing their hands in glee awaiting the time when it will be mathematically impossible. Another one bites the dust.

 

it is really good to predict the out outcome at this stage, almost just a cut and paste!
My little programme did it with a about 3 or so games played, think it is quite close to this also, but this OPTA carnation shows the table without points so without the gulf that exists between teams that came down last season and the existing combatants. The only hope being that they get into 3rd-6th and are lucky and have a purple patch..............