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McLaren F1: Team Thread

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by TopClass, Feb 11, 2022.

  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Its on an old car. I really can't get excited by these things.

    I want to see the new car!!!!! (just a month to go.)
     
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    Even with the new car we don`t get to see it until free practice 1 Bahrain.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Well you'll see more than enough in the test the week before. there very very little point hiding stuff for the sake of a week.
     
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  4. Sportista

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    Now Norris signs up with McLaren until well into the new regs - exact length unstated, which probably means there are exit clauses around the 2027 time period. That’s really good news for McLaren, as it’s potentially the best lineup on the grid within a couple of years if they both keep developing.
     
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  5. TopClass

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    McLaren launched today with some very coy renders and other images.

    Stella says not everything has been addressed in this launch spec - that is still to come for in season development.

    Very different noises compared to their optimism a month ago- I wonder if the recent competitor reveals have given them a bit of a wake up?
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    Obviously testing next week will reveal a bit more.
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    yeah this whole launch stuff wouldn't sell anything to anyone. if you paid for advertd to be shown or were a main sponsor you'd be very disappointed with the return off these.

    we are all waiting for the test to see anything about these cars.
     
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    Do you think that there will be any sandbagging going on,though?

    Until we know who`s on pole in Bahraini it`s just still a guessing game.

    Makes it exciting though.
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    it's a wet week after testing to the race.

    nobody can afford to build a whole new car again so you yest what you want to test amd be ready for the race.

    thus is again an oil bought farce where the first race is in effect ruined by having cars far too set up in advance for thst track.

    if they were serious about climate they would allow local testing
     
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  10. Justjazz

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    Does make you wonder if testing was allowed to take place unfettered, within the budget limits, would we see a more competitive field. I think the issue is testing away from the cameras upsets the media.
     
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  11. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Probably.

    I presume the teams would stoll have to account for cost of their own testing so if ferrari were banned from using their own test track then it's actually end up a reasonable cost of them to go test in private.

    Having testing and first race together is a legitimate saving as they just need to be in situ a week longer IF bahrain are not charging in hotels etc.
     
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    Sneak preview of the Macca doing some of its shakedown in Bahrain today.

    I understand Merc are out tomorrow with a couple of teams too.
     
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    Bahrain takes full control of supercar brand McLaren
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    By Theo Leggett
    Business correspondent, BBC News

    Bahrain's sovereign wealth fund has taken full ownership of the McLaren Group, which builds high-end sportscars and owns a majority stake in the McLaren F1 team.

    The Bahraini fund, Mumtalakat, was already McLaren's biggest shareholder.

    The deal follows a period of deep financial uncertainty for the British company, which has been making heavy losses.

    McLaren hailed it as a "major milestone".

    The company is now understood to be looking at technical partnerships with other businesses, to help it develop electric vehicle technology.

    "We are delighted at Mumtalakat's continued commitment to McLaren through this deal," McLaren Group's executive chairman Paul Walsh said in a statement.

    "This will further enable us to focus on delivering our long-term business plan, including investment in new products and technologies, while continuing to explore potential technical partnerships with industry partners."

    The McLaren Group has its headquarters in the Surrey town of Woking.

    It owns McLaren Automotive, which over the past 14 years has become a major player in the market for prestige sportscars.

    Its products compete with models from the likes of Ferrari and Porsche.

    The group also has a majority stake in McLaren Racing, which owns the McLaren Formula 1 team, and also competes in the US IndyCar series, and the electric series Formula E and Extreme E.

    The business has been under financial strain since the Covid pandemic, which initially forced it to suspend production of cars, and also led to the cancellation of racing activities around the world.

    It underwent a major restructuring in 2020, which included the loss of more than 1,000 jobs.

    It was then affected by the widespread disruption to supply chains that occurred as economies got back into gear following the pandemic, in particular a shortage of computer chips.

    There were also problems with its new Artura hybrid sportscar, which caused it to suspend production, and led to delays in deliveries.

    In the first nine months of last year - the most recent period for which figures are available - it made a pre-tax loss of £276m.

    Mumtalakat has been an investor in McLaren Group since 2007, when it bought a 30% stake from founding shareholders Ron Dennis and Mansour Ojjeh.

    Over time it increased that stake to 60%, while injecting hundreds of millions of pounds into the business.

    Its decision to take full control, which was initially agreed last year, bolsters McLaren's finances in the short term.

    Also, sources within the group say that getting rid of what was seen as an overly complex shareholder structure will make future partnerships easier.

    McLaren is known to be looking for new technical link-ups to help it expand its range and in particular work on developing electric vehicles.

    The BBC understands the Swedish firm Polestar, owned by the Chinese group Geely, is among those to have held talks with McLaren.

    According to the Financial Times, discussions have also been held with Hyundai, BMW and Californian electric brand Lucid Motors.

    Any deal could involve Mumtalakat selling a minority stake in McLaren group to its chosen partner.
     
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  14. TopClass

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    https://www.mclaren.com/racing/form...mula-1-team-announces-organisational-updates/

    Significant news from McLaren today - David Sanchez is leaving with immediate affect.

    He only joined in January- the mutual description is that the position requirements in reality isn’t what either felt it would be or what was required.

    Can’t help but suspect he’s being tapped up somewhere - perhaps Audi or Aston are having a look? Or otherwise McL are seeing big ideas and performance coming from within already and he’s not required?

    Rob Marshall becomes the Chief Designer and supported by Peter Prodromou chief of aerodynamics.

    They are still looking for a performance director which for now will be headed by Andrea Stella in the interim.
     
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    Thanks, Sportista!

    Williams reveal on Valentine’s Day next, then all cars on Feb18 in London.
     
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    They are not allowed to show proper 2025 season livery till the big reveal on Tuesday.
     
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  19. Sportista

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    Yes I was aware - sorry if misleading, I posted quickly between connecting flights.

    I do love a good testing livery though, often better than the real billboard/thing.
     
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    Agree.
     
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