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Dream Match-ups

Discussion in 'Boxing' started by Bullshit Man, Dec 6, 2011.

  1. Bullshit Man

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    If you could take all of the fighters in their peak years and arrange fights between them. What fights would you most like to see?

    Ali - Marciano ( i know they did a computer fight or something)
    Ali - Tyson
    Mayweather - Leonard
    Pep - Whittaker
    Foreman - Liston
    Pacquiao - Chavez
    Tyson - Frazier
    Robinson - Hagler
    Ali - Louis
    Marciano - Jones Jr
    Leonard - Robinson

    to name a few of mine!
     
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  2. Bullshit Man

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    and who would win them!
     
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  3. D4thincarnation

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    Loius vs Ali
    Tunney vs Charles
    Calzaghe vs Fitzsimmons
    Greb vs Monzon
    Hagler vs Hopkins
    SRR vs SRL
    Duran vs Pacquiao
    Mayweather vs Hearns
    Chavez vs Armstrong
    Gans vs Leonard
    Pep vs Sanchez
    Donaire vs Jorfe
    Villa vs Lopez
     
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  4. D4thincarnation

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    Ali
    Tunney
    Calzaghe
    Greb
    Hagler
    SRR
    ????
    Hearns
    Armstrong
    Gans
    Sanchez
    ????
    Villa
     
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  5. ALTBOULI

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    Mayweather vs Leonard would be a good fight

    Marquez vs Morales

    Naz vs Morales

    Tyson vs Foreman

    Hatton vs Duran

    Fraiser vs Tyson
     
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  6. Alan

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    Ali vs Tyson would have been a very interesting fight to see.
     
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  7. ALTBOULI

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    My two Favourite heavyweights but I dont think it would be that close to be honest, Ali would pick him apart and stop him in the later rounds, Ali fought someone similar to Tyson in Frasier and handled him very well, Tyson on the other hand has never fought anyone close to a Prime Ali (some [people may say Larry Holmes but he doesnt come close)
     
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    Yeah with Ali apparently being knocked out in the middle to late rounds, Marciano doesnt come close to the top heavyweights like Foreman, Ali, Frasier or even Tyson.
     
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    Naz vs Mayweather (a prime Naz with the reflexes and power as well as his unorthodox style would be a very difficult fight for Mayweather and I think Naz would have the power to stop him, then again Mayweather could win because of how open Naz was at times)

    Mayweather vs Whittaker would also be good because Whittaker was a great defensive fighter and was also very unorthodox like Naz
     
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  10. D4thincarnation

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    Tyson's bobbing come forward style is very similar to Frazier's and Smokin Joe cause Ali a lot of problems.
     
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  11. ALTBOULI

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    Tyson didn’t have Frazier's stamina to continue like that every round and I think Joe had a better chin than Tyson also Ali could deal with Frazier’s come-forward style although it was with difficulty and, Tyson hits harder but Ali has a great chin and the way h took Foreman’s punches suggests to me that he could also take Tyson's punches. A prime Tyson had fantastic head movement and was very fast but Ali was much faster and I don’t think Tyson would be able to get around Ali's Jab and combinations that he used against the likes of Frasier.
     
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  12. D4thincarnation

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    He didn't take Foreman punches full on the chin. Frazier left hook put Ali down. Tyson was bigger and stronger.

    Swarming Ali fighting on his chest was one way to get the better of him.
     
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  13. ALTBOULI

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    He took some of Foreman's punches on the chin and the fact that the others didn’t connect is a testament to Ali's defence and reflexes, Frasier put a rusty Ali who just left prison down but Ali got straight back up and Frasier couldn’t finish him so this point is meaningless, Frasier only got the better of Ali once and that again was when he was very rusty, his swarming as you call it was not effective in the other two fights and Tyson would not be able to Swarm for any length of time anyway, he certainly couldn’t do it for 12 rounds let alone 15 rounds that Ali was used to and he would not have been able to stop Ali especially not in the early rounds.
     
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  14. RebelBhoy

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    what about fights that did happen.....but at the wrong time?

    Calzaghe v Jones Jnr
    Calzaghe V eubank
    Tyson V Lennox
    Lennox V Vitali
     
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  15. ALTBOULI

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    I would add:

    Naz vs Barrera (Prime Naz would win)

    Hagler vs Leonard (I think a Hagler win just because the guy was an animal)
     
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  16. D4thincarnation

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    So Naz was out of his prime when he was 26/27?
     
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    Naz just got it badly wrong in that fight.

    I would probably add Carl Thompson v david Haye. Both on the wrong side of great at the time (Haye at Cruiser was good)
     
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    Thompson was past his best and Haye was too green.

    How about James Toney vs Bernard Hopkins?
     
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    Prime as in his training and commitment to the sport, its well publicised that he did not train properly for that fight.
     
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  20. ALTBOULI

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    Showing bias towards Pacquaio again?, Roach himself said before that a prime Duran would beat Pacquaio anyday
     
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