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  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    ... play-offs or promotion.

    I've seen a few suggestions that we've clearly blown the top two and the next three months will just be a wait for the play-offs. Fair enough, people are entitled to their opinions, but I don't expect the players to give up so easily. Isidor made it clear, after the Boro game, that promotion is the aim.

    With Sheff Utd, Burnley playing each other and having derby matches that could help and Leeds have some hard games coming up including Sunderland, Sheff Utd and West Brom in the next few. I've always gone to Leeds feeling confident, for some reason, and have seen us win there a few times.

    Whatever the case, if it's the play-offs we have the perfect scenario to introduce players, get the injuries back and try out things we couldn't otherwise. We could really get to a point where we gain momentum and hit Wembley at exactly the right time.

    I'd love to see the likes of Isidor, Mundle, Mayenda, Rigg, Neil, Jobe, Le Fée, etc stepping onto that pitch with a huge following. I'm sure the PL would want us to win rather than have the 'grind out merchants' like Burnley, Sheff Utd, Boro or Blackburn.

    These next 15 games will be great if we can all just accept we won't get it right every time and support whoever is on the pitch. At times we can really click and score some sensational goals, I'd love to see a winner like that to put us up ...

    ... although I'm sure a clean sheet for Burnley and a header from a corner would delight Sky and a few others <laugh>
     
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  2. Comfy

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    Still haven't given up on autos and I hope the squad hasn't with the amount of games that is left, we've seen anyone can beat anyone in this league. My only slight concern is that we're not getting a hold of these games like we were at the start of the season, we need to get back there and start dictating play like we were and if we do then the autos are more likely, if we don't reach them then I am confident Reggie will get us together for 3 most important games of the season no matter who we play as we have proved we are the better team than what's around us
     
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  3. Arfa Wake

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    I think it's absolutely crazy people think we're out of it for the automatics, just as much as it's crazy to think the play offs are guaranteed. It's early February, not a single thing is resolved. Hopefully the players have more hunger and determination than some of the fans I've seen commenting.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

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    Some people are quick to disassociate themselves from any kind of 'failure' ...

    ... it's like those people who only keep their colours on if we win.
     
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  5. Arfa Wake

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    Some are just too emotionally led and it must be draining. Win a game and we're amazing, definitely going up. Lose, or draw to be fair, and it's all over and there are numerous issues with the squad.

    I should really stay away from some sites because it drains me getting involved and I shouldn't :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    Lots of twists and turns for all top 4 clubs to come. Some play each other so points have to be lost by one or both. There will also be the odd surprise results such as hull beating sheff utd us dropping points Burnley not scoring many and drawing lots of games. Leeds probably are strong favourites but the wheels have dropped off the bus before so that may play on them. We can make top 2 still it's going to be a crackerjack of a end of season run in.
     
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  7. SAFCDRUM

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    I just can't see Sheff Utd and Burnley dropping that many points. Portsmouth deserved more yesterday but SU somehow got over the line. At home, we are lacking that killer instinct at moment.
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

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    My thoughts entirely.

    We have some great players, can play exciting football and score some incredible goals.

    We're higher than most of us expected and the fun may have only just begun ...

    ... although I have booked my Wembley hotel just in case <whistle>
     
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    same here and we are throwing to many points away we really need to put a run of 5 or 6 wins in a row to have any chance

    cant see past Leeds and Sheff Utd for top 2 sadly
     
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    Maybe that's true but Sheff Utd play Boro next which won't be easy then have Luton away and Leeds.

    They're also away to Burnley and Wednesday so someone is dropping points along the way.

    Sheff Utd lost 3-0, at home to Hull, and Burnley couldn't beat Portsmouth while we did twice.

    There's always shocks and surprises in the run in, plenty to feel confident about imo.
     
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  11. RedNWhite4Life

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    I've thought play offs since about October.

    Not given up on automatic and of course we are still well in the hunt for it.

    I wouldnt turn down automatics but personally I fancy another trip to Wembley weve not been for 3 years now it feels like a lifetime.
     
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  12. Daz

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    Personally I fancy Burnley to drop out of the automatic race, they've had some bloody luck lately and aren't as good as us or Sheffield. Certainly nowhere near as good as Leeds but none of the three are.

    Think we are making too many mistakes and missing way too many golden opportunities now to make the automatics...but we are still in with a chance. If we go on a run then who knows, but I've been saying that all season.
     
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    If it came down to a toss up between two thousand of us, at Norwich or Bristol, seeing a promotion winning game ...

    ... or 30,000 at Wembley for an Isidor special, and promotion, I'd be seriously tempted with Plan B.

    Let's face it there'd be a chance of a subsequent relegation but the Wembley win would live in our memories.
     
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    Booked my play off final hotels for the Friday and Saturday night with free cancellation.

    Still think we can get automatic promotion bit it's going to go right to the wire with plenty of twists and turns for all 4 teams
     
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    Think until top is out of reach points wise, it’s still possible. We don’t play another team that beaten us in the league again. We are still there within a chance.

    as ted lasso says “BELIEVE”
     
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    I can live with Wycombe 2.0 if that’s what it comes down to.

    One of the most magical days of a life I have thoroughly enjoyed.
     
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  17. Dunder Mifflin

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    It’ll be play offs for us, I enjoy watching us for the most part but we’re just not ruthless enough or street wise. Our players would rather try all these fancy flicks, unrealistic through balls or megs instead of playing it smart and managing the game.


    I don’t know if it’s RLB’s tactics to just sit back and invite pressure or if it’s the players but we need to be playing our game further up the pitch and into midfield, and go for the jugular and get a second and third goal.
     
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    15 games, Luton and Hull at home coming up with Leeds away in between. It’s doable, but a very tough ask.
     
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    I think we’ll get stronger very soon. Our left side up to November was our strongest asset. It’s about to be added to a team that’s already competing for the top. I bet you the other three wouldn’t have stayed in touch with a whole side removed.
     
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  20. Confucius

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    I think the odds are against us for automatics, because we are relying on others failing too. However I still think with a full squad, we can beat anyone on the day but the play offs are an absolute lottery.
    On the flip side, if we never went up, I’d be disappointed because we have been up there all along and set the pace early days. Buts that’s all it would be “disappointment” , I’ve seen young lads play out of their skin, I’ve seen them sticking together, I’ve watched them come back from being behind so many times and have a never say die attitude.
    We may or may not have them next season, but you can’t take this one away from us and irrespective of the league, we should all be eagerly anticipating what this recruitment team can pull out of the hat next.
     
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