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Winter transfer window

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Washysafc, Oct 14, 2024.

  1. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    He played the 6 role nicely earlier this season if I remember when Neil was out.

    Either way, Samed or Le Fee could do it.

    I don't think him being sold this window is as far fetched as some do. And it's also not as disastrous as selling your captain is on paper.
     
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  2. williebeams

    williebeams Well-Known Member

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    no wonder he wants something better

    top end championships players are on treble what hes on and hes arguably more than ready to give the prem a go

    the model is one thing but losing a player like him in the summer is one thing, in the january unthinkable
     
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  3. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    Here's a question I was going to ask this morning, which seems even more pertinent now.

    If you were offered the option of the window closing IMMEDIATELY. Would you take it?

    I would.
     
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  4. williebeams

    williebeams Well-Known Member

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    nobody can blame stewart, without that southampton deal he was 100% looking at employment post football
     
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  5. alcoauth

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    Yes.
     
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  6. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    Also paying Dan Neil what we deem to be out of our budget now, this "Premier League wage", before we get to the Premier League, would be foolish.

    I'd much rather we sold him in January than over-extended ourselves. I trust the club to do what's right here.
     
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  7. williebeams

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    yes but is is dangerous because the high turn around of players could have a negative effect, we could see next season become another build with the push coming the season after.

    id probably think thats the most likely outcome if a number of key players move in the same window

    promotion this season is the best outcome, without promotion the journey continues but the pace is slowed imo
     
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  8. Culinary

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    I can say it with a fair bit of certainty. If it is happening then Dan is being very coy about it or doesn't know about it.
     
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  9. Frazier the Lion

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    We still get £15m in the summer I'd expect. Don't see the rush to get it done now. Worth saying that the club has been really good at avoiding destabilising ourselves in the January window since KLD arrived. I'd anticipate that continuing.
     
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  10. Southern A

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    To be fair it wasn't necessarily a criticism. If Dan Neil has 18 months on his contract and the club and he are miles apart on a new one, his agent wouldn't be doing his job if he WASN'T looking for options for him.

    If Dan wants to play in the Premier League then as much as we are optimistic about our chances, both Everton and West Ham are more likely to be in the Premier League next season than we are.

    I wouldn't begrudge him the move at all.

    I'd personally rather it all waited until the summer and then he signs a new contract no matter what division we are in. But if we get a high offer now I can see us accepting it considering the options we now have.
     
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  11. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    We should NOT be selling any of our recognised 1st team squad in January, unless it’s a ridiculous fee. In Dan’s case I would say that would be £40m in cash!!

    We need them all for our promotion push. The last thing we need is upsetting the rhythm we currently have.

    Bart
     
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  12. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Neil isn’t a 6 and he was shoehorned in there, he’s learnt the role to a suitable level within 20 games what makes you think better players ie Jobe couldn’t learn it as quick if not quicker? He’s certainly got all of the attributes. I do agree it would be best not to disrupt the team at this stage of the season but I said a few weeks ago I think we could cope if he left.
     
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  13. MadMackem77

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    I’m going to disagree and said Dan Neil had all the attributes to be a 6 and is now one of the best in the league with experience
     
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  14. williebeams

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    I believe that selling players is part of our journey

    but selling our captain, who plays every minute when we're challenging for promotion is reckless.

    Unless the fee is immediately put back into the team in the same window and again this relates to our current league position.

    This way you could argue we have improved and we potentially could.
     
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  15. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    Agreed that Neil is one of the best 6's in the league. But its not like we need to go out and find another one if we do sell him. We're in a really good space and will still be in a really good space if he goes. Not panic stations.
     
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  16. WorkyTicketFTM

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    You could go and ask fans of the current top 10 if they’d swap their 6 for Neil and most would say no. Whether or not I agree with them is a different story, I can certainly reel off players that are better than him there but the point is that he’s not a stand out player in his position.
     
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  17. Southern A

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    Somebody should tell Everton and West Ham this.
     
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  18. MadMackem77

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    I’d be interested to hear who you view better as a 6. Id say no more than maybe 5
     
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  19. flandersmackem

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    Would hate to lose Dan... For me he's nearly 1st name on the team sheet. He's evolved into the captains role and is crucial to us. To think it wouldn't damage us isn't (imo) fair... We are much stronger with Dan than we would be without him... But players come and go, so...what will be will be
     
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  20. WorkyTicketFTM

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    Well there you go, there’s 5 you think.. meaning how many are just as good if not maybe slightly below Dan’s level that could easily do a job there without really worsening us? Therefore he’s not really indispensable is he..
     
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