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Transfer Rumours Winter 2025 Transfer Thread

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Dec 12, 2024.

  1. Vern

    Vern Well-Known Member

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    <laugh><laugh><laugh><applause><applause><applause>
     
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  2. jeffratcliffe's_hat

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    He’s played for us and Norwich this season , so wouldn’t be eligible to play for anyone else
     
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  3. Vern

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    Very true. I had doubts and he is more interested in FC than City.
     
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  4. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    So no one has any idea but pretend they do

    in some cases…
    Mostly This happens….

    An article stating they will activate his release clause in the first ten is fact
    But they didn’t

    arf
     
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  5. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    We went through all this sort of stuff the other day, sometimes the real, final answer is nobody knows FACT

    Well apart from those who signed the contract of course and one or two others within the club.
     
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  6. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    They planned to but he began playing for us didn't he? The original plan was to loan him out again but now Steele is injured.

    Which is more likely, that we have a regulation loan agreement with Brighton where we no longer have to spend money on Rushworth for the second half of the season, or we're the most incompetent club in existence and promised Brighton a full season of spend regardless of what they do with Rushworth? Come on Chazz.

    Howden literally said the same thing - that either they'll pay us compensation or we no longer need to pay for the second half of his loan - and no one turned it into a two page back and forth. Wonder why.
     
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  7. Steven Toast

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    I haven't pretended to know the details, I just explained the most likely scenario because that's the standard for most paid loans. I dunno, let's say Brighton paid us a billion pounds in remuneration two weeks ago and we spent it all on Elliot Matazo. There. FACT.

    He's gone, nothing else is really important, save for who comes in as back up.
     
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  8. PLT

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    The following manager didn't want him either and brought in Rushworth to replace him, and Selles made the same call too.

    The club also fell out with and lost their goalkeeper coach over Acun's obsession with Pandur.

    Consistently, all the football people want a better keeper than Pandur. Fans like him and Acun likes him, but managers and goalie coaches don't rate him.
     
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  9. Top_Tiger

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    Apart from him been our best player this season? If Pandur played the last 10 games of last season, instead of Allsopp we would have made the play offs. So coaches/ Rosenior can say what they want hes a better keeper than Allsop was and from two brief games bar with his feet hes better than Rushworth. The main job of a goalkeeper is to keep the ball out of his net, which hes fairl good at.
     
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  10. Tony Angelino

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    Tim didn’t play Rushworth though PLT as I remeber
     
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  11. Howdentiger2

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    So if you rate pandur you're not a "football person" well that's me told.......

    You really post some crap at times, but this has to be the biggest load you've ever posted.

    Oh and fyi, Pandur is very highly rated by managers, coaches and scouting teams and we didn't lose a GK coach over pandur FFS
     
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  12. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Rushworth was on the bench for four games with pandur as number 1
    If Walter thought rushworth was soooooooooooo much better he’d have played him
    FACT
     
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  13. PLT

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    It's all been done to death but I think the fundamental issue we disagree on is the relative importance of what they do with the ball. You and others have said that it's keeping the ball out of the net that counts, but I think that's a smaller part of the job nowadays than you think. Keepers touch the ball dozens of times a game and only make a handful of saves at most, and of those, few will be ones where the difference between a brilliant shot stopper and an average one makes any difference. Possession is a huge part of their game nowadays, and ultimately if they make us better as a team then they'll be facing less shots as a result, which will probably help limit the goals conceded more than having an above average shot stopper will. That will be why managers want keepers who can play, and why most away teams have a keeper who can chip it to a full back on the wing and totally beat our press. It'll also be why Rosenior and Barry Richardson rated Allsop and didn't want to drop him for a better shot-stopper who can't pass.
     
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  14. PLT

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    He signed him and he wanted to play him. He got injured the day before he was supposed to take over as our number 1.
     
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  15. PLT

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    Keep an eye on Pandur's career then. Reckon he'll ever play PL? Reckon Rushworth will?
     
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  16. Howdentiger2

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    Well done for completely ignoring everything I said and replying with a comment that means nothing. Nobody has said rushworth is a poor GK or questioned his potential. Your obsession with seeing anyone bar pandur play is laughable and your lame attempts at justification for it are getting worse by the day....

    And I think both will be good enough to play prem football in their career
     
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  17. Ernie Shackleton

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    I'm gonna punt that some high up at Brighton was watching last night and thought 'anyone, with half a goalkeeping brain can see that although Rushworth is good with his feet, the shot stopping Croat is much the better keeper. Best be premptive and recall the five month failure so it doesn't look like a **** loan all round'.

    Or isn't that how these things work?
     
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  18. PLT

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    I don't know what else you want me to answer. I've just tried to explain the, I think, very clear reason why I agree with the decisions of the managers who've consistently wanted a keeper who can pass instead of Pandur. We've talked about this many times over many months and you always get angry at me about it. You and a couple of others were furious when that journalist leaked that Rushworth was due to start before getting his injury and insisted it wasn't true. You were desperate to discredit the journalist because you were so opposed to the idea of what he was saying. When Rushworth did get fit, surprise surprise, he started for us straight away. So it was you who was absolutely wrong. Loud and aggressive, but absolutely wrong, as is so often the case.
     
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  19. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    Then there are the hospital passes between the keeper and the defenders (both ways) as for the long kicks what if the wingers or wing backs or whoever aren't good enough to get onto the end of them.
    If a keepers job now includes pin point long kicks why do they kick the ball sideways to the defender who is inside the penalty area at goal kicks.
     
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  20. Walter Sobchak

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    Rushworth is basically Allsop.

    And I don’t get everyone cumming in their pants over his “distribution” - a lot of the time if he’s under pressure he’s puts his laces through it. Not that that’s bad, but any keeper can do that.

    Pandur’s been top notch this season for the most part and is our player. I don’t care how good Rushworth was for Swansea, you don’t drop someone playing really well for a loanee.
     
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