I think the fact that Trump has surrounded himself with so many who think the same worries me. However, I so think.he will find things more difficult this term as so many other countries are opposed to his ideas. The rest of the world is more prepared and I expect him to significantly disappoint his supporters. I feel.he is being set up to fail.
Looks like Tulip has got in with the wrong bunch. please log in to view this image https://www.theguardian.com/politic...nd-deposed-bangladeshi-regime-under-spotlight What happens now is, Chilco says if you got to rely on ..................., for your information, there's no hope. It'll just be some made up **** anyway. Jabbo says if you got to rely on ..................., for your information, there's no hope. It'll just be some made up **** anyway. Then adds Yeah that's right Chilco, you tell him Chilco. Onto next story, and repeat.
This story firstappeared a or so week ago, when Tulip Sadiq referred herself to the Parliamentary Standards Committee. Not sure if that’s the reaction you wanted from me, sorry if I disappointed.
Typical right wing response to querying the use of questionable sources. Every link needs scrutiny and verification because of the misinformation, disinformation and lies found on those platforms.
Well it is in the Guardian so it's got to be true. She's expected to resign shortly so it's a bit of an update. Just waiting for Jabbo to say exactly what you've said. He's answered as I write this.
What a shocker! Politician does something wrong and resigns. Isn’t that what is supposed to happen? Or should the PM change the rules, as with the Owen Patterson and Chris Pincher cases?
Would you say that someone who advocates that all Israelis in the world are viable targets, has an understanding of how things are? Would you say that someone who advocates the forced disbanding of the Conservative party has an understanding of how things are? Would you say that someone who advocates that Muslims (6% of pop) being the biggest religious group should have more say on how the country is run, has an understanding of how things are? That's just an example of your own recent postings. I'm not sure you are the best person to question other posters "understanding of how things are."
There's a black cloud on the horizon Gaz which may produce a political storm later in the day or maybe next week. Storm Ivor could be heading this way, keep a look out.
I really admire Frank Zappa and feel he talked alot of sense. His compositions were extremely difficult to perform and there is a genuine musical mind at work. It is a shame that so much of his lyrics were quite crass. Reagan seems mild in comparison with Trump but the gullibility and lack of intelligence of Americans is worrying. I am not sure it is an issue that will be removed. I worry that we are becoming more like them.
Why waste your time. Leave the chat like I have (albeit I must write this one.) You read all the above. disinformation comes from the rabid right wing outlets. Love peace and honesty comes from the Labour party and the Guardian. After all we have above that the Tulip story originated about a week ago when she referred herself to the parliamentary committee. It definitely was not something that Guido has been "lying about" for 2 months and had exposed those links very early in her parliamentary career when she was saying things about Brexit that were contrary to the family regime she supported very closely. Also ignore the Spiked articles about her too. We heard that legacy media (Times) were the ones to break the grooming scandal in 2012. It definitely was not Sue Reid in the Mail in the late nineties who was trying to get the story out. She was lying too. Sarah Champion was definitely not sacked from a ministerial position for speaking out about the gangs. That was lies. Jess Philips saying that the inquiry about Oldham should be held at a local level.........ignoring that it was Oldham councillors that twice wrote to her requesting it be independent and she only responded to the second one when some right wing source starting lying about their request. Hiding behind all the good work she has done for women and equality (which she indeed has, god forbid she has never been shy about promoting her vast achievements) while being unwilling to talk about this specific problem for what it is. And then when the Nasty Musk uses her own words, paraphrasing her very own response she uses on twitter calling people "rape apologists" and many other things, Bad Musk. Jess Philips has a very big mouth, which is fine, but she dishes it out willy nilly with no though, insults people without a second thought (because she is on the right side of history) as a tactic and score some brownie points with the back patters and when anything comes back her way cries about it. She's been doing it for years, shooting her mouth off. Using her platform to target people. Its al right for her to do it but when someone with a bigger platform takes her on.....ohhh nasty man in powerful position. The whole story has been repackaged as "this has already been investigated, nothing to see here." The problem is not that the actual rapists have not been prosecuted.......It is that nothing has been done about those that turned a blind eye and in many many cases still occupy those positions of authority. Does there need to be another inquiry into what happened to these girls? Not the crimes per se, no, that has been done. However there needs to be an in depth inquiry into the collusion, the cover up, those that let it happen and not this "brush it under the carpet" BS. Implement the recommendations ASAP AND root out all those people who turned a blind eye. They should not be continuing in their positions. Then we get the "Tories sat on this for 2 years and implemented none of it." While it is true they didn't do much of it, some of that was probably due to their inability to hold on to a leader for more than 2 minutes and even then that statement is false because when they put the online safety act into law it actually DID action a small number of those "20" recommendations in 1 foul swoop. So make of it what you will. All the above people 100% against "disinformation" and wholeheartedly against anything like Guido or spiked................as being lies and disinformation are actually not knowing that these outlets are the ones that are unearthing stories that only later on the legacy media do an "exclusive" on. T'was also Guido that unearthed that Rachel Reeves was not "an economist at the BoE" and was indeed in a role nothing related to economics in her working career and that in the end she "left" because she was doing too much political stuff in her work time. Disinformation can only be true though if the right people say it is disinformation. Dale Vince the Eco Loon Forest Green Rovers chairman and Labour donator is currently taking Guido to court sueing for libel for transcribing the very words that left Vince Dale's own mouth in a podcast interview!! He says he didn't say it.....despite it being on video. He says it was edited, despite the Times saying it wasn't! Also more lies from Guido that last week Starmer specifically mentioned "The Mayor of Manchester's Report" in relation to the grooming gangs but seems not to have read it as it is very critical of the CPS in particular their decision to tactically prosecute one of the victims to make sure her evidence was heard.......without telling her.....lies of course. Can;t trust Guido.........even when weeks, months, years later those lies are proven! “The CPS, in consultation with GMP, decided to name Amber as a co-conspirator in the sexual exploitation of other children and included her name on the indictment for the trial. We understand this was a legal tactical decision by the lead barrister for the prosecution to ensure the jury heard Amber’s critical evidence to the case. This decision was made despite the previous commitments provided to Amber and in the full knowledge that she had been coerced by her abusers. We regard the lack of concern by GMP and the CPS for the impact on a vulnerable survivor as unacceptable. Amber was not informed that she would be named on the court indictment and was unable at any stage of the procedure to defend herself against these allegations. We can find no evidence to indicate that any consideration was given to how the decision would affect Amber personally or what the repercussions of the decision might be for her family. By naming her as a co-conspirator, in our judgement, there was a foreseeable risk to her and her family’s personal safety that was either ignored or not considered. We regard this as deplorable further abuse of a CSE survivor.” “Amber’s exposure through the court process had a long-term damaging impact on her welfare. It is disappointing that, although the GMP and Rochdale individual management reviews and the serious case review overview report covered the period up to and including the Operation Span trial, none of these reports mentioned the treatment of Amber and the deleterious consequences of her designation as an offender rather than as a victim. It was not until 12 April 2022 that the Chief Constable of GMP issued Amber with a public apology for failing to investigate the crimes against her and failing to recognise her as a child victim.” Sorry guys. With all the above I could not resist. People need to stop dismissing stuff they don't like as disinformation and then coming out with disinformation themselves (myself included I'll go back to my hole now. ALL of media is sensationalist in this era. There is no such thing these days as actual unbiased reporting of the news. No broadcaster, publisher or podcaster deals with plain facts however to dismiss outlets you don't approve of as being worthless and untrustworthy when in reality they have more often than not been the outlets that put the "exclusives" out and not your preferred provider of news that called it an exclusive; The BBC has discovered......, The Guardian can reveal that.................<----very often should have appended with "from Guido." Finally, has this been an opportunistic thing? Yes, quite obviously. Have you not been watching politics (along with the media and commentariat that trundles alongside it) for the past 25+ years? Everything is opportunistic. If it had been the other way round it would be Labour calling out for it. They have Annette Balls in a top position for god's sake. The chief opportunist that flip flops her political outlook to suit whatever gets her the gig! And remember that in this era heroes are made from people with a disgustingly "controversial" past as long as they support the current "right think" so Alistair Campbell is the voice to listen to and Mandelson is the go to for a new "hanger on" position. ↑↑↑This is what I meant when I said I am giving up my tongue in cheek stuff, because they quite literally are outdoing each other constantly in the "you couldn't make it up" stakes and I see no future really for this country while we have 2 sides of the coin that cannot find any common ground. Politics and the Centrists have quite literally used the ideas of progress to drive a huge wedge down the middle to make sure that in reality there can never be any union of ideas. The talk of the right trying to do this is projection because the truth is that ALL of those in powerful positions are now fully paid up members of making sure that "them and us" remains forever, with of course them being, whoever is on the other side of the argument that you are. Congrats on the win against Swansea guys. And I hope Dibling keeps maturing. Reminds me of Le Tiss. Hopefully he won't get the same treatment by England. First match (of any club) I've watched since the Euros.
I should add prepare for it to get a lot lot worse because there are a new breed of young politico commentariat building huge followings (on both sides of the fence) that are nasty pieces of work. Owen Jones is trying to keep up with them, that is how bad they are but they have vast reach, are very confident and all out for their own stardom!! Worrying about GB News is side tracking people. That is a pretty small audience. These guys out do GB News' reach by a long long way and appeal massively to the young "easily influenced" audience and have gained traction fast over the course of just the last 2 or 3 years. Worrying about the press is also a bit silly. If it were not for the opposite side retweeting each other's articles for the "rage" response then the Guardian and the Mail would already be dead. Their traffic is 100% driven by online retweets by their opponents. The Mail has a huge number of views for their articles however if you drive down into the figures 95% of those views are on the page for seconds. The numbers look good, that gets advertising, they stay alive. The Mail sells 800k physical copies on a good day.............4 million people watch BBC News at 6 alone! average 70k watch GB News. Youtubers, tiktockers, twitterers massively outperform screen and print media!!!
