Ash didn’t even need to be technically good as he wasn’t in the team to ping it around. He was in the team to lead, tackle and bollock people. Marney next to him was in the team to run.
Im not denying his legacy here. I agree he is one of the best midfielders in terms of impact we’ve ever had. Just pointing out that midfielders like Ashbee are a dying breed due to the nature of the game which he himself pointed out at a Q&A I was at. Also FWIW Ashbee didn’t captain us in the cup final
Ash was a leader, pure and simple, for what he lacked in ability he made up for in his presence, he wouldn't have taken performances like we've seen some players put in, he'd have been in their faces demanding more.
I'm sure we've all had that conversation when we've been discussing Hull City....'We need an Ashbee,that's what we're lacking''? Testament to the man,we've never succeeded in finding one...
Yes that’s right, different roles obviously require different attributes. I think the conversation was more geared towards the fact he had made himself such a vital cog in our team, that allowed him to play and compete effectively at a level that was perhaps above his ability, which I think is fair. He wouldn’t have walked into any other team in the championship or premier league at the time and had we signed him in January 2008, without that run in the team in the years preceding and his place in it being firmly cemented I would doubt if he’d ever have captained us at all. That’s neither being insulting nor disrespectful towards him, quite the opposite.
Given how times have changed over the last 15-20 years we’d need more people in HR than we have playing staff if Ash was captain for some of the absolute ****e we’ve seen this season
Certainly was - a lot that play off winning team were thought of as limited players but together they were a force to be reckoned with.
It’s amazing he’s not held in higher regard as an all time great, made himself one of the key members of the survival team in 08/09 too.
Apparently so, but 10-15% on profit - so probably around 250k That’s basing it on £15 million + £3 million (Villas sell on). £20 million to Ipswich - £2 million profit. 200-300k
Im sorry how am I seeing anyone call out the man who lead us through all 4 divisions, should have a statue not a discussion of if he was good or not. he will retire having played a lot more PL footy than Reggie Slater can assure you… (lol)
Correct, I think it was decided that it would be better for FFP if we got the sell on next season, so are lobbying Villa to make it a loan with an obligation, which might become an option.
