They matched the Ipswich bid as was their right. It was reduced by their sell on clause but the value of the deal would still be the same as the Ipswich deal, they'd just effectively pay the fee to us, for us to pay them their sell on percentage back. Surely?
People keep saying this about Jacob, but why isn’t he cut out for this level long term? He’s had good runs of form in the Championship - why can’t that continue?
Right, we're on the same page to this point, so surely we get a percentage of their sell on fee, whatever it is?
My point is if they're selling him for 21m and we sold him for 20m we're getting a significantly lower sell on despite only actually earning 17m from his sale. What are you confused by? Sell on % is calculated on profit not total fee.
Honestly fella, I'd rather he knuckle down, get the smog out of his head and be the player we invested in. But he's played under 4 different coaches and had 12 months. It just ain't happening is it?
Looking at his career history, I don't see how it could be anyone other than Rotherham or Middlesbrough. But the fact you pose the question suggests it's someone more interesting than that...
Seems to be another one of those where he's just pigeon-holed as "not at this level" and what he actually does doesn't matter as much as that status. If people don't rate his performances, fine, but I really don't think like this black and white "not at this level" stuff. It gets proven wrong over and over.
They had 'matching rights'. And a sell on. But surely the 'matching rights' safeguards us for the same benefit as if he'd gone to Ipswich for 20m?
If you don't think it's calculated on profit then what are you even arguing as the fee we got for him would be irrelevant.
Yeah no matter where he went from us we would’ve ended up with the same fee. My guess is Ipswich put a sell on clause in and Villa had to match that
Did we sell him for closer to £16-17m though. I swear that was the reported fee and transfermarkt has it at that
God only knows. It'll just be interesting to see how it pans out. But we seem to be finding funds from somewhere if we're genuinely in for Porteus.
Yep that was what we received after villa's sell on element. It's a very fiddly thing and there's a few unknowns. End of the day if our sell on is based on profit as almost all sell ons are we're talking 200k-500k it's really pretty academic.
I think there's a lot to like about Jacob. He works hard, is aggressive, relatively good in the air, can strike the ball well, and has pretty good awareness when it comes to forward passing, especially when he fizzes a low pass through the lines. He's had some tough times dealing with tricky wingers and plays a dodgy pass here and there, but I think with experience, he could be pretty solid at this level.