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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Newcastle United

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Jan 3, 2025.

  1. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    How’s @Roland Deschain coping with the upturn in form?

    My thoughts are with him <rose>
     
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    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    And Ange has spent hundreds of millions.
     
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    I've seen this table doing the rounds and I don't think it's accurate.
     
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    I was a little bit sceptical about posting it because of that but I had a quick look and it seemed legit
     
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    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    He also had Sessegnon, Dier, Sanchez, Doherty, Emerson and a grandad Hugo <laugh>
     
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    <laugh>

    He's focussing on the lack of transfer activity
     
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  7. Citizen Kane.

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    I think he also massively underestimated the resilience of the PL to the impact of COVID. Most other major leagues were destroyed by its impact and are still struggling to recover.

    The Super League idea was a panicked attempt by the Usual Suspects to maintain the pre COVID status quo and one of the most stupid things about the whole idea was that the PL clubs who were invited didn't need to get involved in the first place as financially they didn't need it.

    In the past 5 years the PL has left the rest of Europe behind which has had a knock on effect on how the transfer market works. Hugely inflated quotes when a PL side picks up the phone, while players are impossible to shift due to the huge discrepancies in what's considered a 'normal' wage.

    Levy totally misjudged this imo which has led to us paying above the odds for bang average players, while finding it impossible to move players on.
     
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  8. Roy Munson.

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    Levy seems to be a point of blame, but you've had a good few years at the top and you've got a new stadium.

    The problem exists deep within your limbic systems and it's the false emotional belief that your club 'shouldn't lose or 'should' be in a certain position year on year.

    I would imagine if this continues that Tottenham and Man United will be on the blower to Perez about the Unify league if they haven't continued that is.
     
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  9. Citizen Kane.

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    Sadly it's the state of the game everywhere.

    Always going to be worse in London which is already a tourist hotspot.

    I've also fallen out of love over the years. Can't afford to go to the new stadium nearly as often as I could WHL. And WHL had a sentimental value to me, I took my eldest son there in our last season which made it five generations of the family watching Spurs from those stands. No amount of glitz, glamour or cheese can replace that sort of a connection.

    It's also been tricky to maintain that connection when honestly I just don't give a toss about most of the players and the frustrating part is I'm not even sure why. I love Micky, Kulusevski, Vic and Son (despite slagging him off every week, he's still a 24 carat bloke in my eyes), but the rest of them I wouldn't give two hoots if they left the club tomorrow. And again, I'm not even sure why that is anymore.

    In recent years I've been going to more lower league games. Barnet, Orient, bit of Wycombe if I'm in the area. Partly because it's a more authentic experience, but mainly because as someone who has always worked in the non-profit sector, I simply can't afford to support Spurs in person anymore, which itself is quite sad. Or at least it would be if we were worth watching.
     
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    I don’t think that’s fully accurate or unique to Spurs fans. Most clubs have their share of delusional fans and that’s especially true of wealthy clubs and clubs with large fanbases.

    It’s fair to say we’re the nth wealthiest club in the league and should perform within a reasonable variance. Some would argue we’re within that right now, some wouldn’t.

    Levy deserves his flowers for delivering the training ground and the stadium during his tenure as Chairman. His strategy for driving revenue has always been best in class even if the stadium, while an amazing facility, doesn’t have the soul of the old WHL. Maybe it will in the decades to come but that’s moot right now. It’s absolutely fair to criticise him about what’s on the pitch though. We didn’t have a few years at the top, because we never reached the summit. And I think he’s been shortsighted in how he’s approached the footballing side of things in recent years, as do many Spurs fans.

    By and large clubs deserve what they get, and they get it from how they use the resources they have. Thats where Levy cops flack.
     
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    Absolutely it's the same with all fan bases.

    None deserve to expect any more than any other.
     
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    This is @PowerSpurs theory summarised in a graphic:

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    And a significant one.

    Whereas PS and others see it as a matter of luck, I see it as an indication of a complete lack of in-game management.

    If you're scoring loads in some games and not enough in others, the most likely explanation isn't luck or the officials, but more down to the opposition's ability or inability to deal with you. I.e. we rely on the opposition to be poorly set up in order to win games and can do very little about it if they've set up well, i.e. very little game management.
     
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  18. KingHotspur

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    Spot on
     
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    I think it’s a bit of game management, a bit of player quality. Though we often dominate possession we don’t have players who ‘run’ a game all the time. And we usually create chances or get one step away from that but don’t always have players who make the right decisions and/or execute them in the key moments.
     
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    Spot on...
     
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