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Off Topic Pay rise.

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by TheCasual, Dec 17, 2024.

  1. springtiger

    springtiger Well-Known Member

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    I worked for a company after and during the last slump with no wage increase for 8 years for anyone ! This was common locally . The only people getting any rises were the public sector . When the larger wage increases came in about two years ago there were still numerous people I met who up here were getting a couple of % ! Yet they were suggesting that the private sector was giving out much larger rises everywhere .
    Overall salaries were held back for years , and now if you trawl Indeed for jobs here they want to pay people doing unbelievably responsible jobs a couple of pounds an hour more than cleaners - absolutely disgraceful salaries . Pay a fair rate and expect an appropriate skill and application . As for employers NI being something an employee might be appreciative of that’s totally wrong. The employer employs who and what he can afford to achieve his business aims- and these days unfortunately longevity is not guaranteed unless you join the public sector NHs etc where you get ridiculous pensions and job protection that is way beyond what the private sector will generally pay or many SME’s can or will pay.
     
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  2. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    Strangely I was mulling over why employers take industrial action earlier when reading something (not saying you should by the way Casual!!!)
    I know Trumpton was saying that strong Unions eventually caused, partially at least, the demise of a Hull based company, but things are very different following changes in legislation being largely against Unions.
    In simple terms I think strike action particularly is largely self regulating. If you’re not paid enough then losing some of that lower wage is less of an issue and so therefore you might choose to strike…whereas if you’re paid well then if you went on strike you’d lose more so you’re less likely to choose to do so.

    I know the general economic climate also affects things, so people right on the breadline may not have an option mind you.

    Either way…join a Union
     
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  3. Edelman

    Edelman Well-Known Member

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    Increase pension payments then it takes you out of higher rate tax .
     
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  4. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    Took it early, the offer from memory was six weeks money up front, plus all holiday pay owed and about £1k on top to go early. Not a lot, and I **** myself on the first Monday morning when I realised what I had done, with three kids and a mortgage around my neck and no job. When I saw the jobs on offer, at the job centre, which was none, and then on offer at agencies I decided to go self employed so it was the push I needed.
     
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  5. Off The Line

    Off The Line Well-Known Member

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    This is what workers are up against. There's something quite chilling about this video.
     
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  6. TwoWrights

    TwoWrights Well-Known Member

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    And the rest is history, from Boothferry to Wembley. :emoticon-0138-think


    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
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  7. TigerMarv

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    Turnover is vanity
    Profit is sanity
     
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  8. Charon

    Charon Well-Known Member

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    An employee’s Class 1 National Insurance is made up of contributions:

    • deducted from their pay (employee’s National Insurance)
    • paid by their employer (employer’s National Insurance)

    as I said initially - it's part of their package - the important part is the first sentence ' an employees NI ' ie the total of the two payments is the 'employees'
     
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  9. Ernie Shackleton

    Ernie Shackleton Well-Known Member

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    Deducted from pay: comes from employees earnings.
    Paid by employer: doesn't come from employees earnings.


    It's not difficult to understand.
     
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  10. TheCasual

    TheCasual Well-Known Member

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    I thought it was high too.

    But I think there's some clever accounting going on.

    I was told we had quite lot of aerospace stock from the covid years, but obviously didn't go on the cost for last year, but when the 2020 and 2021 accounts.

    And second we've bought parts from our China factory to be sold in the UK. Which obviously cost quite a lot less then if they where manufactured in the UK.
     
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  11. SydneyTiger14

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    Why?
     
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  12. TheCasual

    TheCasual Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't really help my feelings towards the place when I put a holiday request with 26 days notice and it gets rejected because the factory manager wants everyone in.
     
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  13. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    26 days notice is well late.
     
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  14. highpeak tiger

    highpeak tiger Well-Known Member

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    Pull a sicky
     
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  15. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

    DJBlackandamberarmy(No4) Well-Known Member

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    I’ve got my December 2025 holidays on the planner already
     
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  16. Chesh1recat

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    Slowcoach- I've got some in for 2026.
     
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  17. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

    DJBlackandamberarmy(No4) Well-Known Member

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    January 2nd they go in, <laugh> when our calendar rolls over, I’ll be putting december 2026 in . My boss thinks I’m weird but with my Mrs working in a school I need them on
     
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  18. Chesh1recat

    Chesh1recat Well-Known Member

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    Ditto - October and February half terms go straight in and weeks 4 and 5 of summer.
     
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  19. highpeak tiger

    highpeak tiger Well-Known Member

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    Mine's sorted
    I'm retired.
     
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  20. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    I always used to book the week after half term
    Sorry love couldn’t get half term off….
     
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