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Our Worst Manager Ever.

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by St. Luigi Scrosoppi, Dec 14, 2024.

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Who is Southampton's worst manager ever?

Poll closed Dec 28, 2024.
  1. Russell Martin

    10 vote(s)
    11.1%
  2. Ruben Selles

    1 vote(s)
    1.1%
  3. Nathan Jones

    26 vote(s)
    28.9%
  4. Mauricio Pellegrino

    12 vote(s)
    13.3%
  5. Jan Poortvliet

    10 vote(s)
    11.1%
  6. Mark Wotte

    3 vote(s)
    3.3%
  7. Bassett and Wise

    1 vote(s)
    1.1%
  8. Ian Branfoot

    20 vote(s)
    22.2%
  9. Steve Wigley

    5 vote(s)
    5.6%
  10. another

    2 vote(s)
    2.2%
  1. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    He did spunk the Shearer windfall on Speedie, Dixon and Perry ****ing Groves though.
     
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  2. Puck

    Puck Well-Known Member

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    Wow, I'd completely forgotten about Bassett and Wise.

    I have to go Branfoot though.
     
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  3. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    True. I was a real young nipper during the Branfoot years so can't really comment on the style of football. Some awful signings though, you're not wrong. But selling our youth players on the cheap and overspending on utter garbage, well, that's the Southampton way.
     
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  4. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    Bertie and Ernie were better than Gorman and Doddsy as far as caretaker managers go.
     
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  5. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Wise was only a caretaker wasn't he?
     
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  6. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    Dean Wilkins had the worst record as a caretaker.
     
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  7. Shandy_top_89

    Shandy_top_89 Well-Known Member

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    Martin is ****ing awful in the PL, but he did get us promoted. It was about par with what he had last season but it showed some capability even if he looks incredibly out of his depth now.

    Personally I think Pellegrino produced the least cohesive team performances I have seen at Saints but he had enough quality players to dig out some results, Jones is close but by that point the team had devolved into a complete turd so he had a harder job.

    Still, Martin out!
     
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  8. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Pellegrino and Poortvliet were awful. But this vote will also be tainted by the bellendery of the victor. So it has to be NJ.
     
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  9. Saint Elsewhere

    Saint Elsewhere Well-Known Member

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    Christ that list of managers makes for a depressing read. It's a whole host of people that were woefully out of their depth

    Branfoot was bad. Pellegrino was bad. Jones was bad - I don't blame him for taking the job, but **** me. Really not sure who to plump for.
     
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  10. AberdeenSaint

    AberdeenSaint Well-Known Member

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    Redknapp all day long - got us relegated, then f***ed of to them. Complete and utter ars*hole and a chancer. I`d sooner go down with zero points than have that tosser anywhere near us again.
     
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  11. Saints Fan4Life

    Saints Fan4Life Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone remember the Gorman and Dodd partnership?

    If I remember rightly, they took over till the end of the season after Burley left, but they did so badly that we had to parachute Nigel Pearson in as manager following a loss to Bristol Rovers in the cup ... the winning goal scored by a certain Rickie Lambert.

    Good times.
     
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  12. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Mrs S used my vote on NJ, but It would be Branfoot for me. The only thing he achieved for me was renewed enthusiasm when he left, so I got my first season ticket

    Although more credit for that should really go to Alan Ball, who then pissed off after 18months and ****ed up his managerial career at Man City
     
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  13. saintlyhero

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    The league expanded to 22 teams in 91/92
     
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  14. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    Funny, as Alan Pardew was sacked after a 4-0 win at Bristol Rovers and SRL scored then too
     
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  15. Paddy Podped

    Paddy Podped Well-Known Member

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    Jones and Pellegrino are well clear as the top two for me.


    Pellegrino is the clear link in the chain from us being a decent mid-table club who were in the EFL Cup final to relegation strugglers in one season.


    Jones inherited a team with a six week md season training break and made them worse
     
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  16. Che’s Godlike Thighs

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    Ah gotcha. Even so, Branfoot still got a better points per game average than Nicholl did in some seasons.
     
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  17. Osvaldorama

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    Too young to remember Branfoot
    Redknapp is a **** and was awful for us. But I can’t vote for him, as he was a genuinely good football manager - just didn’t work here.

    Pellegrino and jones were beyond abysmal.

    But statistically, right now, Martin is the worst manager based on his record. So I voted for Martin. Maybe things will change and he will miraculously turn it around so his stats look better. But I doubt it.

    IMO he is being given a very easy ride because he’s quite a nice bloke and Wembley was a good day out. But he’s having a ****ing nightmare this season and should have been sacked long ago. We can’t even do any of the basics.
     
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  18. Lovelocum

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    Context. What he’s doing right now puts him up there. What he did last season was good but not exceptional.
     
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  19. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I agree it wasn't exceptional but as you say it was good and he did well so that surely excludes him from being worse than people who never did well.

    If the question was worst PL manager ever then yeah there's a strong case for him but you can't ignore that he's had some success at the club prior to this season.

    And this is coming from someone who's never been a fan of him really and didn't want him in the first place.
     
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  20. thereisonlyoneno7

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    That 25 game unbeaten run seems a lifetime away now.
     
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