Pundits ( who a lot of them are close to LR ) didn't agree with it your right. Its all opinions the end of the day and just because some didn't agree with it, doesn't mean our reputation as a club changes
You're still fighting the Rosenior battle. There are in fact 2 decisions in tandem under discussion here. Sacking Rosenior in itself followed by a rational, practical, known appointment as successor probably wouldn't have had a huge impact in isolation. I think the left field appointment of Walter and the players reaction in the first few weeks to his methods had more of a detrimental impact in determining who wanted to take a chance on us or go play for more of a known quantity.
Pundits don't have a clue, they watch highlights and the occasional full match and the rest of it they just say what they heard from someone else. Just like a large population of football fans that hoover up the narratives the likes of talksport churn out.
I'm not fighting anything, I'm only going on what I've seen and been told myself and repeating here as I do with most things I feel comfortable sharing
They are also a boys club , they virtually never bad mouth another ex player - probably because they’ll meet them some time .
Plenty of players didn't see the logic in it either, especially if Morton's brother is anything to go by on the City twitter hashtag. And Tyler was one who famously went to Tan over Rosie's head according to ITKs also - I just find it strange that if I was hearing stuff about Walter going down like a lead balloon via the academy of light from players with recent links to both clubs then the ITKs must have too, yet chose not to 'pass on' that information for their own reasons. Mustn't have 'felt comfortable' doing so.
It's always funny that these opinions you get from behind the scenes back you up even though we have no way of verifying. Burns coming from man city after delap this year isn't equivalent.
I don't need or want yours or anyone's verification, if you believe me then fine, also if you don't that's fine. It honestly makes no difference to me. But things I've posted have been verified before. No they aren't equivalent players and I never said they are, but man city were still happy to send a player to us so can't have changed their opinion on us as a club/destination that much. Brighton and their very highly sought after player also saw us as a great place to be.... Our reputation is absolutely fine.
Have they? Such as what? I'm not quite sure you don't care if anyone believes you as you constantly need to lark on about your contacts in the game in order to justify opinions you hold, and when OLM points out quite public evidence to the contrary you trot out the 'Oh well they're just Rosenior's mates' as if the entire industry is in on the pro-Rosenior conspiracy. You said that Burns coming shows our relationship with Man City hasn't diminished. Man City also sent us Matt Smith when we were promoted with McCann, Man City loaning out some guff from the lower leagues means squat. Can't have changed their opinion? They didn't send us someone like Doyle, for instance.
I started the tims done one thread saying I'd had a txt saying he was going that day and he did, but in guessing you won't count that for some reason..... Syd honestly I couldn't care less, I post on here because first and foremost I'm a fan of hull city and as I fan I think other fans might want to know what is going on from bits and bobs I hear ( just as I do when people post things ). If they don't then fair enough they don't have to read what I post or interact, or if they don't believe me then fair enough. I makes absolutely no difference to my life. Olm is allowed to form his opinion based in what he see's or hears, as am I or anyone for that matter. I trust the people I speak to within football and value their opinions and insights and pass them on when I feel I can. You've chosen to ignore it now, but if our reputation as a club had been damaged or change drastically, why did Brighton and also rushworth feel we where the club to come to.... Because let's be fair, we can all agree he had numerous options for this season
Because a reputation being damaged doesn't mean it goes from 100 to 0, it just means it takes a hit, not literally no one wanting to come. I thought that would be pretty obvious. The quality of the loanees and players has dropped massively this window from last, you and others have said it yourselves, that our squad is poor. It's as if you want to have it both ways though. When it suits, you throw the squad under the bus and say it isn't good enough - I think the term you used was 'A squad lacking any game changers or match winners' but then say that the players we've got in are fine and don't show any sort of damaged reputation within the league.
Said it before, when things are going on, snippets of info are always welcome by me, knowing that they are posted in good faith. HT2, M888 and I think Jim the Tiger and one other seem to get know some things that have some credence to them.
Jesus you're hard work, I just said bruns wasn't the same level as delap, did I not?. The rushworth loan ( I see you ignored that yet again ) is up there with the loan of carvalho in terms of championship standards so again, how did we manage to beat multiple teams to his signature? And yea I said that re game chargers etc and yes I've said this squad isn't good enough, but because our "brain team" have signed some crap, doesn't mean our reputation has dropped to a point it's impacting our ability to sign players. We've also signed some very decent players over the summer as well ( even with our diminished reputation, god knows how ). You've got your opinion and that's absolutely fine oh and I'm guessing your just ignoring the fact you questioned my info being verified before by responding and making my comment bold and then completely ignoring it when I prove to you when it has been verified
Not ignoring anything, I'm focussing on you saying "How was our relationship damaged with Man City, they loaned us Burns" as if it's the same and not a lower quality, more speculative loan. I'm sure Man City aren't thrilled with how that loan has panned out. I also pointed out they loaned us Matt Smith before Rosenior, it doesn't mean anything. Rushworth was a good loan and I'm sure we paid decent money for it. I haven't ignored that nor does it indicate much of anything and certainly it is not the equivalent of getting Fabio Carvalho. Which decent players from English clubs did we sign? Yes you pointed out Walter was being sacked that week, an entirely bold and unpredictable event. My point was more broadly that your 'sources in the game tell me no one cares about xG' or 'sources in the game tell me everyone thought Rosenior did a crap job' etc. are the unverifiable claims that you use to back up your opinion as if it should carry more weight as a result. You aren't alone in doing that. There was also that rubbish about Morton and Carvalho confronting Rosenior about his style of play despite them both heaping praise and expressing shock at his departure publicly.
No he wanted a loan, the foxes and us wanted a sale, we couldn’t loan as all the loan spots were taken so he went to stoke… that was my take on it at the time
Where did I say "everyone thought LR did a crap job" My opinion shouldn't carry any weight with anyone on a faceless internet forum, I'll say it once more because you can't seem to grasp it.... I post what I see, hear or are told because I'm a fan and I think people might want to hear it. It's down to them if they want to believe me or not. It honestly doesn't bother me if they do or not. And I said that I was told it was happening that day not that week, bit of a difference. But hey it's not like you to post exaggerated rubbish to try and make your point valid. I'm sure I've said this to you many times before....if you don't like or believe what I post, then please, feel free to just ignore it/me, scroll past and not interact, trust me on this one....it really wouldn't bother me
So the player did what he wanted and was best for him....sod all to do with our reputation or ability to attract players then
He wasn't sacked that day though, he was sacked the following day.. Once again you're choosing to ignore my actual point to fixate on one example you can hang your hat on which was never my point to begin with. It's your falling back on 'my mates tell me' in a discussion with OLM about our reputation in the football landscape of England taking a hit. Leave it there if you really don't care.
