Yeah i believe werner needs 176 games by my watch at tottenham before we know if he will make it. Even then when the new manager comes in he should give him the full 200 again
Sounds like Davies suffered a muscle injury linked to conditioning, which common if a player has overplayed but worrying when we remember that he has only started a handful of games. If he's out on Sunday and Romero still isn't available, we are absolutely finished. But this is what the intensity of the system does and the heightened risk it poses, such that starting 3 games in quick succession leaves a player open to injury even if they've barely played prior to that.
I would like to know which football performance measures require 200 odd data samples before they are statistically robust. Unit measures (such as win rate) only require 100.
Another hamstring injury to a defender. At this rate Spurs are gonna need 6 CB to cover the 2 positions.
I think individual player performance measures are very problematic because they depend so much on whether the other players are doing well and also on who the opponents are doing. I originally came up with the 200 games guesstimate when trying to work out how you many games worth of individual performance data you would need to be 95% certain of which of two players to sign.
Following on from what others have said, I'd be interested if you could cite more than a handful of players in Spurs' entire PL history who have looked shocking in their first 10-15 games but went on to turn it around and had stellar careers? Son and Bale are the only two that spring to mind. Everyone else started as they meant to go on. The subsequent 185 games didn't really reveal anything we couldn't already see.
The last 2 non performances have turned the tide of those for and against change. Most who want Ange to stay do so because they fear yet another wrong appointment. I saw progress up to the city game. But what I have seen since is arrogance. The lack of desire, aptitude, effort, character and resilience by players has been shocking. Genuinely looks and feels like they are trying to get rid of the manager. Only Fraser Forster and Dragusin and Davies did well v Fulham and only Forster v Bournemouth. Unacceptable.... ... and for ange it signals the end. When the away fans turn, you're ****ed.
Untrue. 1. I can measure the save rate of a GK without knowing anything about possible defender failings that led to a shot on target being possible. Similarly for on-target direct free kicks, catches/clearances from corner kicks etc. Likewise for other player positions. 2. As I would have league-wide histograms for 1, I could tell you how many data samples are likely to be needed for any player measure to statistically be both robust and significant.
For me the arrogance starts at the manager. I warmed to him very quickly but as time has gone on, I hate to say it, but he doesn't come across as a particularly nice person. Hyper defensive, sarcastic bordering on outright rude, arrogant and delusional. He doesn't have the CV of a Mourinho to behave or treat the fans like a Mourinho.
I try to give him the benefit of the doubt, and for a while I've wondered if he was ASD (his body language, looking down when he speaks etc) but I don't have the same warmth for him that I did.
If we lose the next 2 or 3 PL games then 4-5th is completely ruled out and even Bastoni, Pedri and Messi in January won't change that!!
That wasn't the problem I was trying to solve. It was more like who of Bissouma or Højbjerg was better.
There's a strong argument that winning that game (and so comfortably) was the worst thing that could happen as it papered over the ever-widening cracks and appears to have given some players and unjustified sense of achievement.
That’s been a problem for Spurs for years though. Win a game handsomely and they seem to act like it’s job done. By all means enjoy the win but realise it’s just one game and 3 points and be ready for the next challenge
I can't relate to any of this. I've seen no arrogance or poor behaviour towards the fans. The treatment that he received after this game was disgusting, though. He's done nothing to earn that sort of hatred and bile. If a manager does poorly, then criticism and voicing displeasure are both fine and entirely normal. Abusing the manager crosses a line, though. The same is true for players. Wanting them sacked or sold is one thing. ****ing them off at a match is another. The performance in this game was appalling, but I didn't see any lack of desire or application. The team selection was poor from the start, we conceded a stupid, avoidable goal and the subs were suicidal. None of that is about commitment, drive or mentality.
I think it was clearly a mistake to sell Hojberg at the moment. He was always there to bring stability when the team were under pressure. Bentancur can do that but he has not been ever present and we need cover for that type of player. Bisouma and Sarr bring, on their day, inventivness and drive beyond what Hojberg could provide but they don't bring stability. Madison for me is a rare creative player that can be, on his day, a game changer, but stability is not in his bag. Every good team needs a player in midfield who can control and calm or push and fight. You can list the great modern teams (modern in my terms) Spurs needed Mackay, Arsenal needed Viera, Liverpool needed Gerrard, United needed Keane and we can see now how City need Rodri. We will never really challenge or become consistent unless we find one. I am not suggesting Hojberg was that player by the way but he offered more than we have at the moment which is nothing at all.
