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Match Day Thread Blackburn Rovers v Leeds Utd Match Thread

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Nov 29, 2024.

  1. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    And about as likely
     
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    They need to drop Aaronson and play someone else in the 10 role. He performed ok first few matches, but imo he’s been so poor lately. You expect a 10 to give the ball away a bit, due to them looking for the killer pass, but everyone in whichever opposition we play, know he’s physically weak. He gets eased off the ball so readily and coughs up possession so so often. Pre season, when reports came out he’d beefed up, I thought we might finally start to get some value out of him. But this “disrupter” role he supposedly plays, is working fine, cos in my book he’s disrupting us, big time.

    He wasn’t the only poor performer, just hope they didn’t take their eye off, yesterday, focus wise cos Weds match was so easy for them.

    Bitterly pissed off with that performance, hope it ruins their weekend as much as it took the edge off mine. Rant over.
     
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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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    It wasn’t that long ago we were linked with Arnie Slot and Gakpo
     
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    Could he do the same without megabucks players though?
     
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    I've heard it said that the Championship isn't as strong this year but I can't see Sheff Utd or Burnley falling away. Burnley have only conceded 3 goals since September and Sheff Utd are digging out wins and draws. They're both PL teams so have the depth and a bit of quality.
    if Sunderland get a 2nd wind or Boro, WBA or Watford hit some form we'll be up against it.
    We can't afford too many Millwall, Blackburn type games if we're going to stay in touch. Seriously, we're not going to run away with this league.
     
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    I agree. As last season showed, it's no good being able to beat top teams if you can't grind out results against the rest.
     
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  10. SIDDAS

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    We have so many games like this but we do the same old thing. if we are losing by the 67-68th min Farke just hoys on as many attacking players as he can in a overload. Sometimes we are just not at the races we can say they defended well but every team that we play seem the same SOLID at the back. So every team either ups the anti and has a blinder or we are not as good as some think. Another game we could of played all night and wouldn't of scored. What worries me is though out of all the Possession we have in games our Striker never gets any service. Piroe or Joseph. Yesterday our wide men were heavily marshalled and physically tested which they don't like Ok Willy does get fouled alot but he seems to like to go to ground. The game just coldn't get going stop start stop start the last 20 mins was a joke they might as well of went into the changing room for a coffee they just killed the game. Aaronson gets into so many good positions but spends to long on the ball his decision making is very suspect. but it was the same old shyte long balls to the wide area's which were to long. or they find the man then they cut in and before they decide what to do the ball is lost. The high balls in the box were bread and butter for Blackburn and we know that because we got nobody strong enough to compete aerially. again everything tried to be to precise nobody wanted to be that hero. bit pizzed off this weekend coz they aren't a good team again we have so much possession but I knew from the end of the 1st half like probably many of you we were not scoring in that game. you have to blame Farke because again its the same old shyte nothing changes. yes we played 3 games in a week but so did they so thats not a excuse at all. But its bugging the hell out of me that our main striker gets no service off so much possession and its not the first time hes your talisman for scoring goals right? seems we just want things to fall into our laps or score the perfect goal.
     
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  11. Makemstine Roger

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    <applause><applause><applause>:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  12. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    Well lose to Millwall in the playoffs. You know we will.
     
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  13. blonogasoven

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    I do think we're suffering the same faults we always do, especially poor decision making in the final 3rd. Our delivery from set pieces is also not as good as many teams we play.
    our opponents will get a free kick anywhere in our half and, very often, threaten our goal. We get one more than 10 yds outside the box and we pass it back. Even when we get a free kick in a good position we tend to waste it.
    Aski will correct me but, I believe, a large percentage of goals are scored from set pieces. I just don't see us doing much work on them.
    I remember the Strachan corner against, I think, Sheff Wed where him and McAllister worked it along the goal line. I may be remembering it wrong but that was inspired.
     
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    I think it's the move on about 45 secs. Not against Sheff Wed :)

    Worth watching all of it anyway. It was a different game then.
     
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    In our dreams as usual
     
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    And way better <ok>....oh for a McAllister/Strachan in mid now or bowyer,Speedo,bremner,Giles etc etc ....all knew where that onion bag was
     
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    Okay, I won’t comment on the game because I didn’t see it for reasons explained (and reading through the thread it seems I got lucky). But a few questions.
    1. At the start of the season did you think we’d never lose a game?
    2. When we had the likes of Strachan etc. were they never in a team that lost a match?
    3. Do you think Burnley/Sheffield U won’t lose a game for the rest of the season?
    4. Are fans just knee jerking from one result to the other (with the notable exception of OLOF who has wanted Farke out since day one and came up with a name for a replacement).
     
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  18. Aski

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    Historical data says that

    70.5% of goals come from open play

    29.5% from set pieces (including penalties)

    Championship Figures for last season

    79.18% of goals from open Play

    20.82 % of goals from set pieces (including penalties)

    Blackburn and Plymouth were the only 2 teams to score less than 10% of their total goals last season from set pieces. We were 3rd with 12%.

    On the historical data basis, 19 of the 24 clubs in the championship last season, scored 25% or less of their total goals from set pieces.

    Cardiff were the most reliant, scoring 45% of their goals from set pieces. Millwall were the next reliant with 35% of their goals from set pieces.

    Stoke Huddersfield and Bristol City were the other 3 clubs where percentage of set piece goals equalled or exceeded the average.

    Of the 6 teams that scored over 70 goals last season, only 2 of them relied upon more than 20% of their goals from set pieces
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    For this season so far (not including games from this weekend)

    74.36 % goals from open play

    25.64% of goals from set pieces (including penalties)

    Only Norwich and Derby have scored less than 10% of their goals from set pieces this season. Again we are 3rd with 10.71%.

    In a reverse though compared to last season, 12 clubs this seasons have exceeded the historical data average for goals from set pieces, with both Millwall and Luton scoring over 40% of their goals so far from set pieces.

    Of the 9 teams that so far have scored more than 20 goals this season, 3 of them have relied upon set pieces for more than 20% of their total goals.

    For us to be around the average (for this season of 25%), then we would have needed to score a further 4 goals from set pieces, although of course that might also have meant that the number of goals from open play may have reduced

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  19. blonogasoven

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    Thanks Aski. Speaks for itself.
     
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  20. Aski

    Aski Well-Known Member

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    Whilst not related to all set pieces, I knew I had read about corners in the Championship, but couldn't remember where I read it.

    Finally remembered. I won't post the whole of the article as I'm on my tablet not pc, but it'll add the link to the article.

    https://theanalyst.com/2024/11/championship-corners-2024-25-goals-stats-opta

    Corners get fans excited. Maybe a little too excited, as under 3% of them have led to a goal in the Championship this season. Some teams are better at them than others, though, so we look at the data behind corner kicks so far in 2024-25.

    A lot of emphasis is put on the importance of corners. Fans get excited when their team wins one and the expectation of a goal is unusually high for a set-piece situation that rarely leads to a goal.

    As José Mourinho’s once said, “how many countries can you think of where a corner kick is treated with the same applause as a goal? One. It only happens in England. This is the only place where a corner kick is as good as a goal for the fans.”

    Goals from corners have been even harder to come by in the Championship this season than usual, even if we’re only a third of the way through the season. Just 2.9% of corners in the English second tier have led to a goal in the first passage of play after it’s taken. That’s the lowest rate in the last 10 years, while the proportion of the total goals in the Championship that have come from corner situations is also the lowest it’s been in that period (12.4%).

    This is a pattern that’s mirrored in the Premier League with just 3.0% of corners leading to a goal and 11.8% of goals coming from corner situations in 2024-25 to date.

    While it’s a trend to keep an eye on for the remainder of the campaign, it’s maybe too early to suggest corners are less effective than ever before. Instead, we’re going to take a look at the individual teams and players that have been most effective at corners this season, and those that have struggled at both ends of the pitch.

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    There have been 1,932 corners taken in the Championship this season, with only 326 (16.9%) seeing the first involvement following the corner being a shot at goal.

    Corners are seen as a good opportunity to maximise scoring opportunity as they are essentially a free hit to getting the ball into a dangerous area, however crowded that area may be. For some clubs, the more crowded the area, the better – we have seen how well Arsenal have exploited corners in recent seasons under Mikel Arteta by packing the six-yard box.

    Overall this season, 712 of the total corners (36.8%) in the Championship have seen a shot attempted within the first passage of play following a corner (not required to be directly assisted by the corner), with 56 of those producing a goal (2.9% of corners).

    Of course, you can attempt more than one shot from a corner situation, so the total number of shots attempted from corner situations this season is 809. This means that 18.6% of shots in the Championship this season have come from corner situations. Clearly, they are an important part of the game, but who is using them best?
     
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