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The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    They never understood the Streisand Effect, did they?

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    "I've known Jeff for 15 years. He's a lot of fun to be with.
    It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.
    No doubt about it - Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

    Donald Trump on his good friend, the massive nonce.
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    Not this one, the other one.
     
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    I'm surprised it's even true now, to be honest. Probably some debatable points on some of them.
     
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    Reeves lied on her CV at least once already...
     
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    America showed it's true face.A crooked white man who promised to help himself v.an honest black woman who promised to help the people.
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    Ehhhhhh...some of the people

    Others got teargassed on campus, which definitely did not affect her votes in college towns
     
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    Somebody took the phrase "liberals are in bed with fascists" a little too literally
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    Good news for my local cobbler: **** For Brains is giving £100m to Farage, because why stop at ****ing up one English-speaking country?

    Going to be seeing a lot of Polestars parked around here soon enough...
     
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    That is not what we meant when we said **** Nazis, Destiny.
     
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    When you are questioning Party politics in the UK and getting frustrated at the apparent bias of the national broadcaster, please consider us in Ireland.

    Here, 3 main Parties can evenly split 70% of the (PR) vote, but 2 of them (both Centre Right) unite to exclude the 3rd (SF) and share power for another term.

    And all the while, the national broadcaster (RTE) takes every opportunity to attack and downplay that same 3rd Party, helping to maintain the status quo.

    There's no direct current equivalence in the UK, although I suppose the nearest would be if Cons & LibDems united to exclude Labour with all these Parties having 200 seats each - and the Beeb do everything to undermine Labour and promote the others.

    Well, that's Democracy for you, I guess <doh><laugh>
     
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    Let me grab some popcorn, as the population of Scotland are about to give us a visit...
     
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    Yeah, about that...

    The 3rd party being Sinn Fein is the unspoken issue in this conversation, though.
    It's possible that the whole anti-left-wing thing would still be there, but it gives them a convenient excuse.
     
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    It's not really unspoken though. FG and FF both openly refuse to even discuss potential Government coalition with SF, knowing that they have the seats to keep riding the gravy train.

    Strangely though, the voting public here are still very conservative (with a very small c) - and despite plenty of unhappiness at the ruling Parties, there is a general reluctance to break the mould.

    SF poll at around 70% support among 18-34 year olds, (35% among 55-75) but that is the hardest demographic to motivate to actually vote. So it could take another generation before major change is seen in the Dail.
     
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    The older people remember the IRA. It's an enormous branding issue, in cynical terms.
    The real problem comes an election or two down the line when various things don't get fixed.
    The fascists are a bit of a joke in Ireland at the moment, but that won't last forever, unfortunately.
    I suspect an Irish Farage is just around the corner.
     
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  15. humanbeingincroydon

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    So the BBC didn't make a peep about Trump pre-emptively mass pardoning January 6th rioters, and instead bang on about Hunter Biden

    How much of our money did they spend on those "Trust the BBC" bumpers again...?

    **** that, how much of our money are they paying Sarah Smith to be utterly out of her depth? A question that was regularly asked when she was the Scotland correspondent, let alone the 'Murica correspondent?
     
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    The next two years or so will be interesting, but the XRW have no foothold whatsoever currently and there's no figure lurking in the shadows to step forward. Farage and his Brexit Cronies tried bloody hard to get something going 2016-19 (Erixit), but it fell flat in its face. And current polling suggests less than 8% consider Immigration to be a major concern. If the Fascists don't have that to work with, they have feck all else. :emoticon-0148-yes:

    As for the SF branding, it's less and less of an issue. 25 years on from the GFA and virtually every figure head from those days has either died or taken a different path.
    The new Party has mostly young candidates - and support across the country. And it shouldn't be forgotten that outside of the border region and Dublin, the population, particularly in the South and West, were largely unaffected through the Troubles.
     
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    Well there's one way to beat the belief that you're an LFI plant...

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    It's definitely not damage limitation after the Corbyn years. Nope...
     
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    South Korea has declared martial law.
    South Korea has lifted martial law.
     
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    The founder of Conservative Home, Tim Montgomery, has joined Reform.
    You can really tell where the Russian money's going now, can't you?
     
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